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  1. Hello everyone My old screen name is Elkslayer and I used to be on this site. I screwed up royally by having more than one account because I was embarrassed when I caved. I have tried to stay quit and failed again. I know what I did was wrong and this site was really useful. Why did I dip again well it was simple as I give into the nicotine craving and I was weak, stupid, arrogant. I took the site for granted and didn’t respect the site for what is was for and I now know more than ever that it helped and I really screwed up. I know this site is about accountability and helping people with this addiction and I would really like to be allowed to use this site again. What will it take to allow me to use the site again? So what I have done for myself is created my own excel program to track the days that I am quit and I am hoping to come back on here earn my integrity back and start my new life journey of being 100% quit ODAAT and stay true to myself, god and all of you. So Today 4-24-17 is my day one and I will just send a post on here of my daily promise in hopes that you will all find it in your heart to PLEASE let me come back. Nicotine makes us do stupid things and I know that completely IT wont happen again. Well I hope that someone reads this and considers letting me come back because I really need this site to keep me accountable and if not then I WILL do this one way or another. I quit with all of you ODAAT and IM SORRY FOR WHAT I HAVE DONE.

    Elk




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    • So is it Facefiller or Elkslayer or what now ? Former brother in quit December 2016. 234 days quit now. Whatever the Administrators say is fine by me.




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    • All you have here is your word, your history at KTC shows plain and simple that you’re word means absolutely nothing. We have no way to know that you’ll tell the truth this time, or ever. It is not my decision in any way to allow you back or not, but my vote is no. I hope you can stay quit on your own, but I personally will never be able to trust a word you say. If I caved, I’d be embarrassed too… embarrassed isn’t even a strong enough word, but I respect my quit brothers and sisters enough to tell you that 1: I will not cave, and 2: if I did, I owe it to them to be honest.

      This place works if you buy in, there is a whole lot I don’t agree with, but agree or not, I’m quit, and quit because I bought into this system.

      Gas




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    • If they let you in LARRY,great.If they don’t,quit anyway,there are people going it alone.




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    • I must have missed that one but what did you do besides mess up and relapse? For that you should be sorry but sorry to yourself and it sounds like you are? I would say you were hurting yourself by relapsing? i dont know the whole story if you were trolling or why other people would be upset at you? Odd though 558 days and i didnt know you needed permission to post or whatever on this website? Best of luck, stick with it this time.




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    • Hey Larry,

      I am not a part of your old group, but I am a member of the Dec 15 quit group. I like the idea here that if you cave, you have to start all over again and join a new group. So, It sounds like you are asking if you can join again. Well if you are will to start over and this time you are ready to commit, then I think you should be welcome with open arms.

      However, we have to ask you what is going to be different this time? How will you guarantee that this time you will not cave? You should be answering those questions to yourself before you answer to KTC.

      I will say this. I was so impressed that this site, created by Chewie and his magnificent 7 that I created a similar site for people quitting heroin and opioid addiction. It is called QuitTheaHabit.org. I only did this after first receiving Chewie’s approval to do so.

      My wife and I attended a one week Recovery training course to learn the right things to say, to understand what people are going through, to learn the proper resources to recommend, etc. My broader family has been impacted by heroin and opioid addiction…..

      One of the tenets of this recovery training is that people are in recovery when they say they are in recovery. So based upon my training, you are quit because you say you are.However, I do like the old school way of fessing up and explaining what is going to be different this time.

      The most important thing in any quit is turning of the switch in your head where you debate in your head when you are going to use again. If you decide never again, the rest is easy. You just get through every day and every day you add another +1 to your quit count.

      Day 589.

      I quit with you today.




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    • Elk, you posted over 100 days, under 2 separate accounts, 3 different times, right? How many people texted with you personally and supported your quit? You have to understand that you did not abuse the “website,” you wasted the time, energy, and effort of real people who cared more about your quit than you did.

      I appreciate your sincere apology, but I just don’t see why you should be let back in. There are other sites where you can join a group and post your promise. They are NOT as good as KTC, in my opinion, but it’s not like you do not have other options.

      I think you are a good guy, and I appreciated you when you were part of March 17, but all this account switching and blatant lying to avoid accountability makes me wonder whether you reached the hall of fame with us or whether you just dipped the whole time you were on this site.

      If the admins let you back in, I hope you do change your ways. I also hope that you really do quit this time. Take care.




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    • If it were that simple. You’ve reached the point where you will lie, cheat, and steal to feed your addiction. Your addiction is the single most important thing in your life right now; it’s more important than God or life.

      You have to make your quit take the place of your addiction in the hierarchy of importance in your life. If (and only if) you can do this, if you can make your quit as important as God or life itself; not more important, but as important, you can arrest your addiction and control it.

      You’ve come here twice proclaiming to do just that. Both times it was a lie, to yourself and to us. You’ve been banned for breaking a rule that you knew would get you banned. That can’t be undone, and you cannot be un-banned. We have damned few rules here, and they’re pretty commonly known. When you created a second username, you knew you’d be banned just as you know you’ll get burned if you touch the flame of a candle.

      Time to move on, Elkslayer.




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  2. Well today makes 2 weeks 14 days dip free never putting that garbage back in my mouth. Tips i cam give keep your self busy keep a pack of surgar free gum laying around it helps. When tje desire gets to bad i remind myself why im quitting. On the plus side i feel better blood pressure has improved gonna hang in there




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    • i applaud you im a 15 year old baseball player and have been dipping for 2 years now and its super hard to quit.




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  3. I’m at 90 days dip free as of today. To this day, I’m still having sleep issues. My doc prescribed me trazodone 3 weeks ago, which has helped out quite a bit, but still no where close to normal yet. Anxiety has also been a bitch the last couple weeks or so. The burning sensation and general minor discomfort I was feeling in mouth has pretty much subsided now, so that’s a definite plus. I have hopes that my normal sleep will eventually return and all the other withdrawal related discomforts will eventually dissipate as well, in time. One thing is for sure, I will NEVER put that nasty crap in my mouth again. Just taking it one day at time.




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    • Bob,

      86 days today and still get the occasional nic fit. It’s not a constant like it was the first few weeks, but it’s there. Sleep is getting better without any sleep aides.
      86 days ago I would have imagined I’d be completely over any withdrawals, but now and again I’m reminded of how powerful that stuff is.
      Stay the course. I quit with all of you today.




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    • 30+ year habit. I’m at day 82 of dip free. I’m still only getting only 3-hours of sleep a night. I wake up with the energy like I’ve slept for 8-hours but half way through the day you get tired because of not sleeping more then a few hours a night for the last 3-4 weeks. I still have the nic fits a couple times a day. I am glad I am finished with this crap!




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  4. Hey guys day 600 for me today. I dipped Kodiak for over 25 years and thought it was impossible to quit. One day in Aug of 2015 i decided to buy some fake dip and really try to stop. I was rewarded full custody of my kids in a divorce and thought if i die from dipping what a jackass i would be. After i had a few weeks quit i wasn’t willing to give up those days and here i am 600 days later. If i can do it so can you. Its such a huge accomplishment and will give you a sense of pride that you can beat a horrible addiction




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    • I agree, one of the things that keeps me on track is I don’t want to lose the days I have already gone. I am on day 28




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    • Hey Russell, congratulations on hitting the big 600. What a great accomplishment and how proud you must be to be a dad who no longer dips.

      You set a great model for your children as well.

      My 22 year old daughter quit smoking 6 months into my dip. She knew I would never quit dipping and when she saw the miracle of her dad quitting she decided to quit as well.

      I hope your family continues tobacco free and you continue to be a role model to your group members, your family and the greater community.

      Do not forget to give yourself and family a treat as a reward for achieving this milestone.

      I quit with you today.




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  5. I’m looking for some advice. I have wanted to quit for a while now but I haven’t had a lot of luck. I go through 1-2 cans a day, and I’m worried that going cold turkey is going to be too much for me. Should I try to cut down before going cold turkey, or just bite the bullet and stop all together?




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    • I was chewing about two cans a day for the past r years, and in total, I chewed for 17 years. 132 days ago, I quit smoking(pack a day), chewing, and caffeine all at once. Anxiety will happen either way. I chew smokey mountain now. Don’t wait, there will always be an excuse. I first 70 through 100 days are hell, but so worth it.




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    • I started to ween off and then I would just get back on to a full can a day. What worked for me was to have a quit date. I set a quit date and then started to ween off. By the second week I was doing one chew a day a week and a half before my quit date. I said f-it because one chew a day sucks and I might as well just quit, so I quit. Been three weeks now and feel good. The craving come and go. First three days are super foggy and kind of like being doped up but then third day to 14 days, not gonna lie, rough but doable with smoky mountain. Good luck man. It took me three times weening off to eventually say f-it and quit.




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    • Day 84. Here’s the best advice: QUIT. I’ve tried gum, patches, patches, and every Jedi mind trick. My quit was very sudden. It took a hard kick to the gut to push me over the edge, but it worked.

      Here’s a few things that I believe have helped me. KTC, a book called “the Power if Habit”, exercise, openness with my wife about my quit and what to expect (I needed her to know that quitting would make me extremely pissy and short tempered.). Art of Manliness online magazine and blog, a good woman, a little faith, general stability with work, my 3 boys, feeling good, other quitters on this forum, desire to be a better man, and just plain ol’ being sick of that nasty garbage.




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    • Nussbaumzz,
      If you are like me it is all or nothing. If you start cutting down you may be able to ween yourself away. I tried that for 40 years.

      The sooner you stop using altogether, the sooner you know you made the decision.
      to quit. When I quit, I needed to be off work. I was catatonic for the first few days. All I did was sleep in bed and just got up to eat, drink some OJ and pee.

      So, doing it on tax day when taxes are due would not be smart. But, if your work and home schedule is at a place where you can be 70% or 80%, then get started.

      There is no time like the present to improve your live.




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    • Get a couple cans of baccoff and call it quits that’s what I did 103 days ago I used mint skoal for about 16 years




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    • Cutting down slowly worked for me. Started cutting back last September, worked my way down til I was at one pouch a day for a few weeks. Then just cut the cord. Don’t put too much pressure on yourself in the beginning. Don’t get overwhelmed. Take baby steps, while cutting down. Hope this helps




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  6. I’m a week in and feel like I’m going crazy over all I feel great just the anxiety did any one else experience a feeling of somethimg stuck in there throat at there tonsils I can’t see any swelling or discoloration it really feels like food stuck, also have a sore neck, a cough, and head aches, are these normal with drawl symptoms?




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    • Punctuation could be your friend.




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    • Day 23 here. Yes, I had the feeling of something stuck in my throat for about a week into quitting. Some of it was from anxiety and nasal drainage from allergies. It finally went away and the anxiety has become less intense. Hang in there it will get better!




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  7. Any tips i try to keep myself busy but if i try to watch tv my craving comes back im 9 days dip free




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    • Lifting weights helped me. Wasnt used to it in the beginning and one set would def get my blood flowing usually enough to take my mind off it. Plus once you start seeing results you will not want to throw that away by relapsing. Just be careful dont hurt yourself. Everyone has to find whats right for them though. If TV was a trigger for you chewing id cut that down to a min for awhile. I had a similar problem, playing my ps4 was a big trigger for me, like i couldnt enjoy playing my games without chew or trying to mind f myself thinking how much funner it would be with a chew so i had to just quit playing my ps4 in the beginning. Your brain spent however long you chewed creating connections associating nic with pleasure. As you recover your brain is healing and it will repair those connections naturally so you wont need nic to feel good. I promiss it gets better. 547 days and you couldnt pay me enough to put that disgusting sht in my lip again. The smell of cigarettes makes me want to puke now. I can say with confidence i will never touch nicotine or possibly even alcohol again. I feel high enough on life now. Sounds hokey like an afterschool special but its true. One last thing to keep in mind, most nic fits only last a few minutes so dont give in. You got this.




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      • Thank you for the advice. I’ve chewed for 40 plus years. I’m in East Africa and I purposefully brought a limited supply this time. I have 5 cans left and 3 months before I get back to America so this ain’t going to be easy. But I know I can do it.




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  8. Day 576. Just realizing that I feel like I have the energy I used to have before the quit., I am not sure if this is because my body is finally getting adjusted to being free or due to the dental work I had done two weeks ago.

    All I can say is it feels great to have energy again and be substance free.

    When did the rest of you feel like you got your energy back?




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    • 547 i have been steadily getting mine back since i quit? Like i was just telling Matthew early in my quit when i would get urges i would lift weights. It was rough enough at first to really wind me but once i started seeing results i wanted more. Ive lost about 30 pounds, i quit eating dinner last year because i notice i sleep better on an empty stomach. I also started eating better foods. More fruits and veggies and again i notice that really helped with energy and motivation. 3 months ago i quit drinking sodas cold turkey. Now just water, seltzer water and a few glasses of OJ a day. Im kinda concerned now though. Early last week i started working my cardio finally, i started jogging. Now im getting chest pains days later? Im hoping its just normal but i spent decades abusing my body and im thinking maybe i need to talk to a doctor before i push myself harder?




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    • Hi Dundippin-
      I’m past day 445 into my quit and still feel tired as though my energy needs more time to return. It’s all part of the healing process. I’m happy your energy is returning and hopefully mine will return in the near future. Keep posting on your progress!
      Jake-




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  9. Hi,guys on day 20. Its very hard till this day. Still feeling dizzy,sleepy,headache and get nausea. Feels something is happening in my mouth. Got mouth ulcer on right side. Feels burn on left side where I used dip tobacco while eating food. Gets the feeling of that i will get cancer after something weird happens in mouth. I always thinks of it. Want overcome this feeling. Sometimes feels that something is pinched in my mouth. I get dry lips and white layer on it. Some times mouth get dry.

    Day 20 and still this symptoms are happening to me. Is it normal or I need to see the doctor.

    Need your support.




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    • Hi Vashal,
      Feeling dizzy, sleepy, headache and having nausea is normal. We all feel it for varing lengths of time. We are all a bit different anr med so it ends for some of us sooner than later. For me, I believe I had those symptoms into my 100’s.

      As to the burning in your mouth and the feeling that you have about your condition, well trust your intuition,.

      I recommend finding a dentist as soon as possible and get it checked out. If you already have a dentist, then use him or her. If you don’t, call around and let your prospective dentist know you were a dipper….. See if you can find a dentist that you like but do not wait around.

      Better safe then sorry. Just be glad you finally quit so you do not have to worry about that anymore.

      I quit with you today. Stay strong.

      .




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    • Of course you need to see your dentist or doctor so that you will become free from those feelings.

      I am on my day 102 today.
      22 years of dipping (mentioning it keeping my head down).

      I too experienced the followings until day 50. And later all of those started to disappear (Thank you JESUS ):-

      1) Burning effect (where I used to put the dip)
      2) Burnings – lower gums
      3) pinching effect – chin
      4) Found that I was frequently examining my mouth for any changes like mouth sores. . And worrying on it for days .
      5) Googling for cancer symptoms
      6) Receding gums. It is real. One of my teeth in lower front row is about to pop out. I can see almost it’s root.

      1 to 2 … initially I felt any one of these for whole day long.
      1 to 3 … will go away
      4 to 5 …. we have to stop digging that deep.
      6. It doesn’t heal by itself.

      As Dundippin recommended see your dentist and specify that you WERE a dipper. Clear your anxieties and be Happy.




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    • Day20, i have similar symptoms to WEST, except 6) and as WEST said, i keep googeling about symptoms of serious oral problems.
      so already visited ENT doc and he assures nothing is wrong still have another visit as sore throat was the problem (to me) and it has been more than 2 months.
      Google sometimes gives a crap result! it answers ‘CANCER’ when you search sore mouth or throat!! 😉




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  10. Day19, suddenly started feeling like the first day of quit, full of fog, cravings are getting weaker though.
    First target – today, stay quit
    Second target – 30 days
    Third – 60 days
    Forth – 100




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    • Hang in there TKV the cravings and stuff will come and go but you have this. Mine came and went for almost 180 days lasting only a short time frame
      I’m at 222 days today. You have got this my friend ?




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    • TKV I am at 21 days, and have noticed some severe cravings the last couple of days too. I have just kept ample gum on hand and just keep thingking that I don’t want to have to start over.




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  11. 106 days! I am so thankful for this website. I only started 6 years ago a can a day. Now I can say it’s the longest I have been without a dip for 106 days. Truly it has been a blessing, still taking it one day at a time! Have a few triggers here and there but I start to think is it worth it? Thanks for everyone on this website and it’s great to see so many people taking the first step in their quit!




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  12. Who is the moderator of this forum?




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    • Hi Mark – that would be me. What can I help you with?




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      • When I first started on this site, it was spectacular! Now, you have KIDS on here pretending to be MEN! They are not respectful of other people’s opinions or comments. (Like it was when I started.) I’m well aware we have Freedom of Speech, and it is not my desire to impinge on that process; however, when I read comments these ‘tough kid’s’ are making or mocking someone else’s progress, that entails for ‘calling’ it out! The fact is some folks are TRULY struggling on here and need help! I do not think that struggle should me made fun of or not taken seriously! I could make my drama go on, but I will stop; my rant is over! Blessings to you and yours…




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        • MARK,I’m one of those old bastards(50 yrs old) in the 300’s still having symptoms.Us older gentlemen recover slower.Just trying to lighten things up little.




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    • Shame on any one on here not here in desperateness to Quit and be a positive influence on those here to save there life or at least make it a better one. I am truly grateful to have found this site and the support it has given me in my quit, to day is 100 days and there are some amazing people on here that care and here for the same reason I am QUIT LIVE.
      THANKS KTC and all its members.




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  13. Day13, suddenly started feeling dizziness from late evening till i go to bed and nausea. May or may not be withdrawal symptoms. But only thing I know is I won’t go back to Nic.




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    • I’m guessing everyone with symptoms 300,400,500+ days nicotine free are a bunch of old bastards over 40.Just a guess.




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    • +TKV Hard to say? I never experienced withdrawls like that everyone kinda has their own? I noticed after quitting how much more sensitive i became when i got sick. When i chewed i always felt like crap so i was pretty much numb when i caught a cold or something but being clean it seems to hit harder. There is a bright side to this, it seems i also recover quickly. At 13 days you have no excuse to mess up now, the hardest part is over and you dont want to do it again. Just remember nicotine at this point will not make you feel good or better. Stick with it, believe me its worth it.




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  14. Day 7, bought to kill someone at work. Taking a break and eating skittles.




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  15. Had two teeth extracted yesterday. My dentist says my gums have improved wonderfully. He gave me a care sheet after the extraction that says if you smoke, wait 48 hours or 72 hours before having your first smoke.

    If I was still dipping, there is no way I could have waited that amount of time. In fact, I know I would have put a dip in my mouth the moment I got home.

    I think god that somehow I found this site and finally quit at the ripe old age of 59 after smoking and dipping since 6th grade.

    Day 566, I quit with you today.




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    • Had a total of 4 teeth extracted, only 2 of the wisdom teeth. The other 2 I lost to dipping. Each time, I barely made it until after the local weared off…. 10 days so far, I’m staying strong to last as long as you.




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      • Deelow, Great, you have gone through the toughest part and have made it ten days. Congratulations. Just remain firm in your quit, get three square meals, plenty of rest and stay positive. You have this. You will be at 100 days in a blink of an eye.

        I quit with you today.




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  16. 100 days quit!!!! Wooooo It has not been easy, but with lots and lots of gum (whenever I wanted to put a dip in) and will power I’m never looking back!!




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    • Keep it up man! I’m on the same time line! I have my rough days but it’s so worth it




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    • Want to quit in DC

      Been dipping 2+ cans of Kodiak a day for 30+ yes. Want/need to Quit! Any suggestions tips to start would be great. Been months quit previously, always come back. Time to move on….?.hopefully.




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      • Good decision my friend. Just implement.
        If you were able to stay quit for months YOU SURE CAN AVOID GETTING BACK TO THAT HABIT AGAIN.




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      • The thought of quitting is harder than the actual quit itself. Set a date….Say 2 weeks from now. Ficus in that date as the first of your freedom from dipping. Gather an arsenal if quitting aids you may need. For me, I got Grinds coffee pouches, Teaza pouches, Smokey Mountain herbal snuff, and tons of gum. I used Amazon for procurement of these products. Every night I told myself aloud that I was gonna quit. It’s gonna suck quitting but the payoff is way better. I focused on post quit things and pictured them without dip. This has made for an easier quit this time. I still have the fog and anxiety but it’s not stopping me. I’m telling you. Thinking about it is harder than doing it. Good luck!




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      • Want to Quit in DC,
        First you need to change your name from Want to Quit to I have Quit. It is all in the mind. You have a switch there. You either tell yourself you want to quit and then debate with yourself when you are going to do your next dip OR you say I am finally quit and you just stop.

        No more internal debates in your head as to when you are going to do it or now. You just stop.

        I dipped for over 40 years and finally quit at the ripe age of 59.

        It is a miracle that I am here and am at day 568. It is a miracle that there are so many successful quitters on this site.

        We need more including you. Jump on board, post your introduction and roll call.

        I quit with you today.




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      • …Just my two cents, but don’t keep your quit a secret from those close you. Explain to them that you will be extremely irritable, moody, short tempered, etc.
        I’d keep it from my wife, and then be a total jerk, feel bad for.making her feel bad, then go grab a can to calm down. There were a couple of times when I lost it during the 1st two weeks, but then it became manageable.
        70 days quit today.




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    • Congrats Ray.




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    • Congratulations Ray. Before you know it you will be 500 days quit. Just stay solid in your quit and do not let your guard down.




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  17. I am on 11 day of quitting. I was chewing tobacco from last 4 year for every day. I used dip tobacco at one time more than 1 hour or 2 hours. For every work I needed tobacco. After waking up,after tea,after lunch. Every time what I need is tobacco. One day in night I was just touched my cheek and I felt a big lump and its painless. I scared of it and I thought its a cancer. On next I ran to the doctor and told him about it. He said there is nothing to worry its due to wisdom tooth. So after that I decided to quit the chewing. Now I feel so great after that. I get feelings for chewing but I move to orbit or chew betel nuts. Is it good chew betel nuts as alternative of chewing tobacco.




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    • Hello Vishal.We are on the same boat. day-11. betel nuts are NOT at all safe. Better to move to some safe alternates. I prefer chewing gum. Not even fake chew.




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    • Vishal, Glad to hear that you quit chewing.

      Marks formation due to friction of wisdom tooth and inner surface of cheeks…most people have these kind of issues. Kind of discolouration or depth formation where tooth comes into contact with cheek..right?

      I have it (both sides). I too was worried. Plus I have thin white horizontal lines on right/left cheeks where upper & lower teeth join. Checked with dentist who said it was because of cheek biting while asleep. Linea Alba.

      However if any simple change makes you worry you must talk to your doctor for peace of mind.

      Betel nuts are not good for your stomach and teeth.

      Stay quit. Enjoy your life without tobacco.




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      • Thanks west. Now I moved from betel nuts to orbit sugar free gum. I chew 3-4 peace a day and trying to reduce it to none.




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    • Bro never use bettle nut…..they are more deadly than tabacco itself….especially…the plain pan masalas..the innocent looking products are bait for lure in new customers….




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  18. Just want to let all new comers know that KTC is awesome and it has helped me get to where I’m at, Day 64 of quit. I probably had 4 other quit attempts that never made passed a week. If you need help, join a group and start participating in discussions with people who are within your timeframe of quit. Good luck!




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    • How do I join. Ready to kick this




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      • Hi Bo – you can register for our forums for free here: http://forum.killthecan.org/register/




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        • Hey. i couldnt find a place to leave a comment. but im a 19 yr old. i live in alabama… im a volunteer fire fighter and im still kinda new to the fire game. but ive seen a few things such as a suicide that kinda shook me and when i got back to the station. no matter how bad i wanted to fight it.. i took a pinch because i knew it’ll take my mind off of what i just saw.. anyways.. any tips on how to find another way to combat the dip urges after a bad call




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          • Dominic – first, thank your for your service. Men and Woman like you are a rarity. Second, Congrats on finding KTC. The men and woman here WILL help you quit.
            For me (I’m in a high stress law enforcement related job) I use this simple method (that I spent a thousand dollars to learn).
            1. Make a list of your triggers – what drives you to take a dip? Life is full of triggers so you can’t eliminate them all.
            2. Visualize those triggering events and you NOT having a dip. At first, it may be scary, but believe me, this really really really really helps.
            3. Tell yourself starting now “I don’t use nicotine”. The mind is powerful and even if you are still using, keep telling yourself “I don’t use nicotine”.
            4. When you have the urge, don’t deny the feeling. Simply recognize the feeling of wanting a dip. Don’t panic about it (like I did for many quit attempts) just say “Oh, there’s that Nicotine Witch wanting to climb back on my back again”. Believe it or not the physical urge passes within minutes.
            5. Find a friend (you have hundreds here already) that you can call.
            6. QUIT – you gotta quit. Personally, I don’t believe in fake snuff ect. I tried it before, and yep- went back to dipping.

            You are turning a very very important corner in your life with this decision. I commend you and will support you like every other brother and sister on this site.

            QLAMFEDD.
            Zlaneb.




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  20. 66 days quit. That 60 to 90 day window of nic fits and fog must be true. Last night and earlier today for some reason had the worst cravings since the first week!

    Appreciate the long time quitters leading the way and letting us know what’s further up the road. At least when I do get a little foggy, irritable, depressed, anxious, or all of the above I will have anticipated it.




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  21. Ok, so I need to address some of the replies folks have posted on here that I believe have been taken out of context. First off, even though I am 500 days into my quit, it is, by far, the best decision I ever made for myself! I was asked a question if I still experience some nicotine withdrawal symptoms; I answered that question. I DO NOT WANT TO BE UNDERSTOOD AS SUGGESTING THAT YOU WILL ALSO EXPERIENCE THE SAME; I NEVER SAID THAT! If it came across that way, please accept my apology. Nicotine withdrawal, as has been stated millions of times on this forum, IS DIFFERENT FOR EVERYONE! While most of us experience similarities, each case is unique to the individual! Remember that! Just because I’m still having some issues 500 days into my quit does not mean you will! Some of you will recover much faster, others, like myself, slower. Please don’t push a panic button…and trust the process! I am feeling better than I ever have; however, some days I feel bad, get headaches and some anxiety. It does not mean I’m suggesting you will. Yes, the road is rough, but SO WORTH IT! You will feel better, and the best is yet to come! Stay the course!




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    • Hi Mark if you are referring to my post to BOB I ‘m sorry if I offended you.I’m sure you know how helpful your posts are to the people behind you.I regret I didn’t find this website sooner,I wouldn’t have been totally blindsided in the beginning.Peace be with you MARK G.




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      • No offense takin at all, STEVEB. You’re right, I wrote that post to help and aid others who are young in the Quit! We’re all in this together, man! Peace and Quit to all!




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    • I want to quit bad im trying to dip less a day usually 2 cans a day an i work on the boats so its really hard to not put a dip in been dipping for about 15 years need something to do other than dip any suggestions




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      • BigSteve, I highly recommend one of the herbal alternative dips. I like Smokey Mountain mint best. Feels real and tastes very close to Skoal mint. Let me be clear though. It is not tobacco and you still need lots of will to quit. I will say this, between that and my sunflower seeds, this quit is going so much better than any prior attempt. I stay loaded to the gills with gum seeds and herbal dip at all times. I work on a car factory and have been dipping for better than 30 yrs with several temporary quits or switches to smoking. This time feels right. I’m only on day 3 as I type this and it’s been my best day yet. Good luck




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    • Keep up the good work brother! And keep fighting the fight! I’m at day 93 and I still get huge urges once and a while to get a pinch of Copenhagen! But I never do it nor will I! Stay strong and God blesse you




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    • Mark,
      Very well said….and 100% true. During my quit I “latched” onto Dundippin’ and followed his journey like a hawk. He seemed to be having a very similar track to myself….I almost knew what was coming in advance which helped greatly with my anxiety issues.
      So although no two quits are identical….find someone that is extremely close and track them…..ask them questions or for help.

      I’m always willing to help….and I still need help from time to time.

      Don’t be too proud to ask for help.




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  22. Day 500! Wow, I never would have thought getting this far was possible! There are still good days and bad days. The progress has been slow, but so worth it! I still get edgy, foggy, irritable, and sometimes feeling sad for no reason. Yes, your nicotine abuse and dependence affects EVERYTHING that your body does! It controls your emotions, your appetite, your bowel movements, your reasoning skills, and your overall outlook on your life and world! What does all this mean? It means a HUGE adjustment to your life that will not happen overnight! Stay the course! Trust the process, and keep reading these forums. You’ll make it if YOU want to! It’s that Simple and that Hard! “If you’re going through hell, keep going!” We’re all here for you!




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    • Hi Mark-
      This is Jake. I’m over 445 days into my quit and was wondering if you experience any fatigue this far into your quit. Personally, I get tired during the day which I still contribute to my brain and body getting back to normal. Also, do you experience any headaches at this point?

      Plus, I was wondering how craigselk66 and dundippin are doing? How are your symptoms gentlemen? I would like some insight. And I would appreciate if you could answer the same questions above that I posted to Mark regarding the tiredness and headaches. I’m not on the board so I thought I would ask the questions here.




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      • JAKE, the answer to both of your questions are yes. I especially feel fatigue after I eat dinner; I found this to be because I would normally chew right after a meal. Those were the best chews, especially after pizza! Anyways, I get headaches from time to time as well. Usually in the back of my head, down towards my neck. Do you still get anxiety sometimes? I do. It’s been a tough road, but I’m glad I stuck with it!




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        • Mark-
          Yes, I do get anxiety from time to time. I feel as my brain keeps healing my anxiety will go away as well. Please keep posting. I would like to hear about your symptoms (or lack there of) as time goes on.




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      • Nicotine is a stimulant. Could explain why you’re tired now. To all new quitters, I’m 150+ days quit (1+ can a day for 20+ years) and after 1st couple weeks, I had no cravings, no fog, no headaches, no dizziness, etc. I feel Great! Point is – not everyone deals with withdrawl issues/symptoms 1+ years onto their quit. This is a great site for support while you start down your quit path but take it for what it is and only pull from it what helps you be effective in your quit and helps you stay quit.




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      • Jake,
        I’m at 536 today and feel pretty good. But to put it into perspective….on Saturday I felt like I was at Day #6….wicked headaches and a “fog” that was crazy thick. I couldn’t hold a thought or even look left to right quickly without almost falling over.
        But then Sunday was a great day.

        So this far into my quit….I am feeling much better, but still have some anxiety and dizziness from time to time. I don’t really have the fatigue issue that you’re mentioning….but like Mark G said….everybody is different.




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        • Craigselk66-
          Thanks for responding. Reading your post certainly helps me understand my symptoms more clearly. I sometimes feel as though I can’t “hold” a thought as well. I am glad you are feeling much better. I hope you keep posting periodically so all of us can read about your progress.
          Jake-




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      • Hey Jake, I am in my 560’s now and my craves and my crazy rants have all been gone. However, that being said, the minute I say my craves are over, sure enough, two days later I will get the craves.

        Anyway, I am feeling much healthier. I do wake up dreaming that I did snuff now and then. So although I have made it this far, I know it is always lurking around the corner.

        I watched a couple of movies recently where the actors smoked throughout the movie. It really offended me because the smoking brings back memories of tobacco use. I wish they would stop showing smoking scenes.

        I digress, I have been much better since my 400’s and even better in my 500’s. I hope it goes that way for you.

        If you have anything in particular to ask, feel free to let me or Craigselk66 know.




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        • Dundippin-
          Thanks for responding. I’m happy you are feeling better as time goes on. I feel the same way. I wish the process was quicker; but oh well. And I still get cravings like you. The craves aren’t as strong as in the past, so that’s a good sign. I will continue to ask you and Craigselk66 any questions I have in the future. Hopefully the days in the 600’s will be better for you than the 500’s!
          Jake-




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    • hey BOB JORDAN I quit 310 days ago cold turkey,no fake dip or anything,didn’t find this website till about a month tobacco free and had no clue any of this would happen.I dipped a can a day of cope, two cans a day on weekends for 29 years. The first two weeks almost zero sleep plus all the other symptoms which lasted for months.I slept like a rock after those first few weeks,but if I lift heavy weights to many days in a row my sleep is a mess,might go to bed at 10 pm wake up 1 am and can’t go back to sleep.The anxiety was bad 60 to 90 days,like your feeling it right now.I had two massive anxiety attacks in those 60 to 90 days and almost had third when I was at the doctors for a stress test.My blood pressure was 176/90 before I even stepped on the tread mill.the nurse was telling me to calm my self down,yeah right lady, how the F do I do that.Everything was fine all the trips to the doctor just made the anxiety worse.It takes about 100 days BOB.Look at MARK GRAGO 500 days in and still feeling it.I really felt a differance after 100 days.These people on this site really know what’s up.Don’t give up BOB.




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    • Hi BOB JORDAN.I quit 310 days ago,the insomnia didn’t last long 2 ,3 weeks.The anxiety was at its worst 60 to 90 days,after 100 days I really started feeling a difference.The anxiety and other symptoms still come around.When I read your post I feeling it.But it goes away quickly and never as strong and easy to ignore.Look at MARK GRAGO 500 days and still feeling it.Hang in there bro it gets better.




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    • Thanks guys, I wish I never would have started 34 years ago… I’m like 94 days, can of skoal a day. I’m ok with the quit and I’m rock solid in my resolve but the weirdness my body feels is beyond fucked up, I woke up this morning at 4….boing, like a rooster ready to rock. Headaches, now I get this feeling in my mouth like my tongue doesn’t work a few times a day and I want to slur my words a few times a day, like I stroked out and I’m pretty healthy. I have gained 20 pounds and eat everything in my township. Looking forward to feeling better until I read the 4-500 day stuff and I know that will be me. Really ? 4-500 days…..WTF
      Is what it is…tell the young kids you know to quit now.




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      • Best thing you can do is keep your eyes forward and don’t listen to this stuff about withdrawals at 4-500 days. Sometimes we get headaches…it happens. It doesn’t mean its withdrawals from 500 days off tobacco.Dont let someone write your story. I was using 2 cans of Copenhagen a day for 10 years and dipped a total of 22 years. I’ve been quit for 120 days and have never felt better. I have gained some weight though haha




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  23. On day 8 and I feel great. Dipped a can of Copenhagen a day for 7 years I quit march 21 2017. Had 3 pretty rough days and after that I feel just fine. Great decision. I have more energy now for some reason. I also can’t figure out why but my libido is way up as well. Oh well. I’m not complaining. Stick with it gents. 3-4 days of crap and you’re gold.




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  24. Day 2 – Anxious, stressed, unfocused, confused, but will make it through the fog. 15 years worth. Knowing there are strong people here that have done it, is a great reminder.




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    • Deelow ,

      All of those worries are quite natural when you quit. Within a week you are going to feel normal. Stay quit. ..Stay nic-free.

      Never fall into that pit again.

      Live a happy life.




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    • I was 15 years a dipper and now am 9 days in. Gets easier my man.




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  25. Day 17 cold turkey from almost 2 cans a day.. 22 years old. Best desicion I have made thus far in my life




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    • Hell yeah. I was over a tin a day and am on day 15. Keep it up.




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    • BOB JORDAN anxiety seems to take a backseat until the other symptoms where off then around.60 -90 days it’s got you all to it’s self, plus elevated blood pressure as a bonus.Hang in there.




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      • Thanks for the reply Steve. So how long ago did you quit and how long before your insomnia and anxiety finally dissipated?




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    • Stanquittingthecan

      Day 1! I haven’t since I was 15 been more then 24 hours with no chew this has to be the hardest thing I have ever did I am 22 now! Reading these stories is helping more then you all know ! Thanks everyone for sharing !!




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  26. 25 days without the can so far. Thanks for the inspiration everyone!




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    • Glad to know your progress Dave.




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    • I started using griz at 16 just trying to be part of the team in HS ~ (almost 30 now. ) After college ball I switched to skoal pouches just for ease at the office and quick easy ditching it whenever someone who didn’t approve approached. I’m now married and have two little girls and I’m ready to quit. I just discovered this website and I can tell you I will be on here daily. I have quit for a month or two here and there about once a year since I started but always fall back on it. Today is the first day I’m going to quit for me and stop lying to myself. I’m worried that I’m going to procrastinate and delay it too long and it will be too late. (I would never be able to forgive myself if I were to force my wife and children to be without their husband and father all simply due to pure lack of will. I am on the 3rd hour of kicking the can. I do have questions and am hoping that this forum will be my saving grace when I need some help.

      I’m going cold turkey and it won’t control my day anymore.

      I have two main questions since this is my first true quit where I actually don’t want to let everyone down and I’ve accepted that I’m not invincible.

      1. What’s the ballpark amount of time where you truly start to feel like physiologically better ?

      2. I have regular doctors/dentist apts and neither have mentioned anything other than my blood pressure and my gums receding a bit. Should I go get a swab done to check for the big C?

      I appreciate all you guys and I will be rooting for your quit as hard as mine !




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  27. I’m on day 9 cold turkey and my anxiety level has been maxed out for the last 2 days, but a gym session later on will cure that!




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  28. 60 days today. Last time I went this long was about 3 years ago. There’s no need for me to pat myself on the back. No reason to celebrate. It simply means I need to keep plodding along. Good luck to all of you in your first few days. It gets easier.

    Like they say, If you’re going through hell, keep on going.




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    • Keep plodding, Skedaddle! One day without tobacco is a win and worthy of celebrating. And then there’ll be another one. And another. I’m on Day 1916 today, but it’s really Day 1 every day. Go!




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      • 5yrs..Thats great.

        After how many years of dipping?




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        • Started lifting dip from my old man when I was 11, had my 1st cig at 14 and was basically a full time smoke until about 26 when went to dip. 41 y.o. now. I doubt that in that time I went more than a year without tobacco in some form.

          I still have cravings, though, and get a little edgy at times. Life is Good.




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          • I quit for 5 years once myself changed jobs about 5 years ago guy gave me a cigar to congratulate me needless to say took another 5 years to get back off the nic bitch.204 days quit again.




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    • Congrats on hitting 60 days Skedaddle (actually 62 days as of today now :)! I’m at 69 days today myself. I’m still dealing with insomnia issues which truly sucks because I never had sleep issues till I quit chewing and now anxiety issues have been ramping up out of no where this past week or so as well. Other than that, it does feel great to be tobacco free for this long. Really looking forward to when the sleep issues subside though…..maybe in another month or two if i’m lucky :)??

      Keep up the great work in your quit and never give up!!




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  29. Day 5. Have been a Copenhagen man for about 6 years. I’ve quit multiple times but keep finding excuses to go back. I work nights and I might bum a dip from a buddy to stay awake, not thinking I came all that way and I just caved. I just bought a new house, have a wonderful girlfriend, and just so much to look forward to in life and am so glad I don’t have to worry about losing all that anymore. I got so tired of having a sore in my mouth somewhere and thinking it was cancer. I have always used Smokey mountain but have recently been trying Baccoff which I like also. I’ll keep posting to this site




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  30. Well guys and girls, I made it. 365 days dip free. Not just dip, but no tobacco products whatsoever. One year. I don’t remember why I stopped but I’m definitely glad I did.




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  31. Hey Chewie or anyone else reading this that has been quit for an extended amount of time, how much heavier are you now than when you first quit chewing? I’m on day 12 now but I quit for 5 months last year only to get really depressed about getting fat and I started again. I have always been pretty fit and work out 3 times a week but man I got pretty fat when I quit and was wondering if you ever loose that weight? I’m only 19 and have been dipping on and off for about 4 years.




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    • Hey Keith – I’m probably about 20 lbs heavier than I was but that’s more of a function of me not getting my ass to the gym and drinking more beer than I should as opposed to it having anything to do with my quit. I’d say any “quit related” weight was probably in the 5 lb range simply from stuffing my face with food rather than dip at the beginning.




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    • Nicotine is a stimulant. When you quit your metabolism goes into “shock” for a brief period where it basically shuts down. This should not last for a very long period of time but can cause some minimal weight gain in the beginning. If your putting on a lot of weight its most likely caused by a lot more snacking than you used to do because the habit you are trying to overcome is not only nicotine but putting something in your mouth (oral fixation). Im around 150-160 days quit myself. I went cold turkey. I chose not to use fake dip or seeds. The 1st couple weeks were the same as everyone else on here has experienced. After that ive had no issues. What i didnt notice was a lot of snacking, not only between meals but all day. As a result i put on about 15 lbs. The bad part was i didnt notice/realize until my pants were too tight! Now that i am aware the weight is coming back off. Its an interesting thing, the studies say/show that nicotine is gone from your system in 72 hours yet we read daily on here about some people years into their quit saying they are still dealing with cravings, fog, etc. Makes you wonder what is a more powerful addiction, the nicotine or the oral fixation?




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  32. 90 days woooooooooo




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  33. Day 100… I still have days on occasion where I want a dip but it’s just not an option.

    No idea why I quit, I just did. Chewed 8-9 cans a week for 30 years, I quit for a year, 15 years ago. The last 15 years I’ve been hiding it from my wife and family. I’ve got very good at hiding it, making excuses for missing family stuff, going to be late, etc. all so I could chew, it for sure controlled me. Making up excuses when I occasionally got caught.

    At home my quit was all on me, since I hid my chewing for so long had to hide my quit.

    This site…. your comments got me through this. I read all of your comments 1st in the morning.

    Thank you all and good luck… I will go back to reading and probably comment if I feel somebody needs encouragement or to announce my 1 year anniversary lol




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    • Way to go Jamie – congrats on a huge milestone! Don’t be a stranger!




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    • hi dude i can help u i know ppl im not the same dakota




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    • Jamie,
      i appreciate your story. i have a similar one. I am 7 days clean, dipped for about the same amount of time. i was in complete denial. Telling myself that i could quit anytime that i wanted..within the last several months, found myself dipping a can a day. found myself more so with a “Lipper” in then out. Decided, last Sunday that i was done…its been since then that i have had one…its been hard, not news to you, but im trying to take it day by day…im hopeful..




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      • Dear Jared,

        We all were on that 7th day.

        Just give it some more time, 10 more days.
        There wont be any strong cravings.

        Sometime during the next 28 days nicotine will free you without letting you know about it.

        Stay quit buddy. Do comment here as you reach your 30/60/100/180/250/330/365 days goals.




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    • I’m in the same boat Jamie. Been hiding the habit for 13 years of my marriage. 216 days in to my quit. Don’t think about it very much. Been a little tough with March Madness. I use to watch all the late games just so I could chew. Without chew, I don’t even really care that much about the tournament. I had some buddies I talked to since I wasn’t going to tell my wife. She once said she would divorce me if I ever smoked or used tobacco. My buddy always reminds me that I am much better off without it then with it.




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    • You and I are two peas in a pod, hid my habit and hid my quit. I’m ashamed of what I did, nonetheless I’m at 125 days quit and will NEVER go back! Stay strong all.




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  34. Good luck to everyone trying to quit!

    I wrote some tips and tricks from my own personal experience that you may be interested in if you’ve tried many times unsuccessfully (like I did!).

    You can find them here: https://www.hiddendominion.com/quitting-nicotine/

    I used for many years, starting when I was young – and quit probably 6 times total. But I always ended up going back to it. I’m over 1 1/2 years good now, and the thought of it makes me nauseous now.

    I found you really do have to get that mindset right first and foremost. Otherwise it’s always a struggle.

    God speed. And remember to not give in. You’ll quit for good eventually!




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  35. I’m on day 4. The first 3 days were hell, and today I have been constipated all day, but this crap is not going to own me anymore. See you again on day 20!




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  36. Seeing alot of new quitters here, some seem to be struggling. Come into your quit armed & ready to fight. Get some fake dip & cruise this site for tips, a TON of good info to help with your quit.




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  37. On day 24 and I still feel like I am in a fog….. I never considered myself a heavy dipper, but I had been doing it pretty much for 10 years…. How much longer?




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  38. Day 4 here.

    I’ve dipped for 8 years, most recently skoal mint pouches. I quit for about 90 days last fall. I got cocky and thought I could handle buying just one tin for a special occasion. I managed fine, but soon after other “special occasions” popped up and I was back to 2-3 tins per week.

    I have always hidden my use from family including my live in girlfriend! Last week I ran out and life happened and before I knew it I was on day 3. I have cravings and can feel the hair trigger on my anger but it’s all been manageable so far.




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    • Does anyone know of a replacement for loose leaf tabacco?




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    • I’m on day 214 after dipping since the 1980’s. It’s so nice not to worry about hiding dip all of the time. Staying up until 1 AM just so I could have one in while my wife was sleeping. Wondering if you left a cup out. There is peace of mind that comes with not having to worry about when I’m going to get my next dip in. Quit and be done. There’s nothing special about the occasion when you dip again. You lose. Stick to it and don’t look back.




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    • JF-Same here, I quit multiple times for about 3 months and thought I’d just have a dip on these “special occasions.” The problem was hunting season, fishing season and golf season became the special occasion. As you can see, that about covers the whole year. I quit for 3 months last fall, only to buy a can to take hunting. Might have been easier if they sold cans with 2 or 3 dips total in the can..LOL. Anyway, I will have my last pouch today. I figure quitting on a Thursday will help cause the weekends I am busy so I don’t think of it as much then. Its work that gets me cause I sit in front a computer most of the day. By Monday, I’ll be a few days in and on my way. I have stocked up on a few cans of Grinds and Baccoff, just to cut the edge. I know what to expect, so I can be prepared, but this time it’s final. I just think its time.




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  39. Quit 14 days ago. Canna cope a day for 12 years. Rough going, but cinnamon toothpicks and peppermints are my new best friends




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  40. hi name is Mark. Have been dipping since 1977. God this is going to be hard to stop.




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    • Congrats on a great decision Mark – you’re not alone and you CAN do this!




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    • Good luck, I just hit 30 days, it’s definitely a process




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    • You can do this I just got to the 7 day mark and I’m feeling pretty good, You have to believe you can. But good luck.




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    • Mark you can do it. I dipped for well over 25 years and today i am on day 571. I bought some fake dip Jakes and Smokey Mountain when i quit and it helped alot. Life is truly better when you are not a slave to the habit and your mouth is gonna feel alot better. Good luck buddy




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      • Russell – I’m day 238. When did you give up the fake stuff? Or did you yet?




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        • Evan i still have an occasional jakes mint dip but nowhere near what i used the fake stuff in the beginning. I also use Teaza when i am in the gym. At this point i am comfortable with that use i don,t feel any wear inn my mouth from this limited use of the fake shit. Day 575 fuck yeah




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    • Mark,

      You’ll be treading a hard worn trail. I had often thought I was the most addicted person to ever dip. I couldn’t count how many times I was brave enough to toss a can out the window only to stop on the way home and grab another. I had a list of excuses a mile long and now all I got is 54 days quit. 54 days ahead may as well be an eternity as 54 days behind is a blink of an eye. Stay quit. It’s important.




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    • I’m in the same boat as you. I’m on day 3 and haven’t lapsed yet.




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  41. I came across this awesome site when I finally made the decision to quit Skoal pouches on January 18th of this year and was seeking support for what I now consider to be one of the hardest things I’ve ever done in my life….the withdrawal symptoms I’ve been experiencing have absolutely sucked to the least, ESPECIALLY the horrible insomnia, which still persists today and I’m currently at 60 days today. I chewed for more years than I care to remember and I have had nicotine in my system from either smoking or chewing since I was 13 and I’m 49 now. I quit smoking cigarettes many years ago, but then Skoal became my new crutch and I never looked back. I’ve been lurking a while, but this is my first post.

    One very important question for you guys that are at least as far along in your quit now as me or further. Is it normal or fairly common at all for someone to still be experiencing bad insomnia issues at this stage in the game (60 days)?? The insomnia has been the absolute worst part for me. I just went to the doctor this morning make sure there was nothing else wrong with me and they found nothing. I actually started sleeping fairly decent last week and would fall asleep within an hour or so and would only wake up once or twice in the night. NOW this week its like the first week all over again for some reason. I went to bed around 9 PM and couldn’t get to sleep until around 3 AM and had get up for work around 6 AM. If the sleep issues do eventually pass on its own, how long did it roughly take for your sleep issues to clear up? I realize every one is different, but how long did it take you guys roughly for your sleep issues to clear up??

    Any words of wisdom/comfort you can guys can provide to ease my mind a bit about the the insomnia I’ve been experiencing this far in the game would be greatly appreciated.




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    • Correction….my math was a bit off. I’m at 56 days tobacco free today, not 60. 🙂




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    • Hey Bob – congrats on 60 (56) days of freedom! The short answer is “yes”… totally normal. It can take a fair bit of time, but your sleeping WILL return to normal. I didn’t personally, but I know several quitters who gone to their doctor to prescribe sleep aids.

      https://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/symptoms-of-quitting-dip-chew/




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      • Thanks for the reply and info Chewie. I am trying real hard to not go the prescription med route because I don’t want to run the risk of getting addicted to yet another drug and have to go through possible withdrawals from that as well. I’ve been experimenting with different herbal remedies (ie. Valerian root tea, chamomile tea, melatonin, 5-htp and a suppliment I came across from doing A LOT of googling thats called “source naturals theanine serene with relora” . I bought a bottle at my local vitamin shop and have been taking it every night an hour before the last couple of weeks, along with 5mg of melatonin and its been helping somewhat. Still far from normal sleep, but a little better than it was. Just out of curiosity, since you didn’t use prescription meds either, how long did it take you personally to get past the sleep issues?




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        • Hmm… it’s been a while since I quit so I don’t remember the exact timeline but I think it was right around the 3 month mark where I started to feel like I was getting a decent night’s sleep again. That said, I also had a 53 day old son the day I quit so he may have had some input into the whole lack of sleep situation 😉




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    • Idk i still have insomnia but i had it before i even quit. Reading this brought back memories of when i chewed. I remember how i would ration a can out and have that one dip saved for right before i g2 bed. Then i wouldnt be able to fall asleep and after an hour of tossing and turning id be heading to the store to get more. Not understanding nic is a stimulant and id end up chewing another half a can that night. Yes i still have a hard time going to sleep sometimes but its easier to deal with now. I dont get stressed or upset. If i cant fall asleep ill find an old movie to watch until i get sleepy.




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      • Thanks for the feedback Tom. How long ago did you quit?




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        • I quit back on oct 15, 2015. I used nicotine in one form or another for almost 27 years. Its crazy i havnt gone this long without it since i was 13. I have said it 100 times but quitting was one of the best decisions i ever made for myself. Im feeling alittle under the weather today but normally i feel great. It was really warm last week and was loving it, now we got storms rolling in and its cooling off so maybe its all mental lol? Im looking forward to hiking up to my old camping spot and checking it out. Cant wait to get out and do some backpacking this year. If i was still using nicotine i wouldnt even care, id still be burned out living my life around one dip after another. If you are having trouble sleeping 3 things help me. First is getting enough exercise. not only will you start sleeping better you will start feeling better, just be careful dont hurt yourself. 2. my first trick i use if i dont fall right to sleep is just clear my mind, start counting your breaths. breath in count 1-2-3 out 1-2-3, 1 and i say if i get up to 50 or 100 then ill find a movie to watch but that usually works. If that doesnt work ill find a movie to watch. I find watching weird sci fi ones like the twilight zones, 2001 space odyssey , flat land, etc takes my mind off whatever is keeping me awake. My favorite twilight zone was shatterday with Bruce Willis. That was me early in my quit and now.




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    • Congrats on 60 days. I’m on day 51 after chewing about 5-7 tins a week for as long as I can remember. I had sleeping issues in general, and lack of sleep was my main trigger. I did get on Wellbutrin and have as as needed prescription for alprazolam. Hate taking meds. But I will chase melatonin and valerian root with NyQuil before I allowed myself to stay up all night. I really don’t have cravings or temptations, the hard part now is staying vigilant. It’s easy the first couple of weeks because the hatred you have for the stuff is still fresh, and you literally have that bad taste in you mouth and ass-breath in the morning.

      Life is Good now. 60 days is the longest I’ve gone. It shouldn’t be a problem. I’m on a good place right now. It helps.to have favorable circumstances I never really had.




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    • Many congrats on your quit Bob, it’s not EZ for us old timers to quit, I’m 46 yrs old, 1st dip when I was 10 yrs old, quit 2 yrs ago. It was not EZ & I absolutely suffered from insomnia, which was weird because I always heard nicotine was a stimulant & kept you awake, so I figured I’d sleep better. Nope…… It’s gotten better, I tried melatonin, which worked pretty well for me & I like that it’s natural. I had anxiety problems too, so watch out for those. It gets better & better as time goes on. Drink water, exercise, & don’t be afraid to use fake dip. Keep up the great work Bob. Double thumbs up.




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    • I’m only on day 14 Bob but my nicotine use mirrored yours except I’m 64 years old, sheesh that’s 51 years of using nicotine, amazing that I’m in good health. But I can relate to the not sleeping issue. I fall asleep fairly quickly but wake up about every 2 hours during the night….hopefully this will pass. Good luck with your quit.




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    • Bob….I’m day 90…chewed can a day skoal, for 34 years…same thing up like a rooster at 3 am…my blood pressure was high, I cut my hand and had to get stitches, the PA said why is your blood pressure so high, I said not sure, she told me to go see my regular doctor, I did not go….I quit that day….and it has been horrible from day 1…Buddy told me it can really make your blood pressure go up after a long period of usage… I said this shit will kill me, if it already hasn’t….




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  42. Update: Day 5 still going strong with no dip. The urges are still their but have gotten noticeably more subtle than ever. I feel great!




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  43. Day 73, I’m nearing 30 years old and I dipped for 8 years. I bought my last can on January 1 and finished it at 1pm on the 2nd. I’ve gone cold turkey all the way. I have been getting late term craves, especially late at night and first thing when I wake up the last few days. I just have to remind myself how bad Copenhagen tasted in my mouth in the days leading up to my quit. I’m done with it for good! If you’re thinking about quitting or are early on in your quit, it’s hard but I promise you it gets easier every single day! To those of you who stories I’ve read, thank you! Your testimonies have really helped encourage me to keep going and to know that putting down this expensive and disgusting habit is very possible!




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  44. Day 7 here. I’m 27 and have dipped since I was about 15-16. I’ve dipped a can of Grizzly Wintergreen a day for the last 7-8 years. My wife has been pressuring me to quit for quite a while now, but I loved dipping too much. Nothing better than a dip after eating, or while watching a ball game. I recently moved from Florida to Texas to take a different position within my company, and now that the stress involved with moving is over, I figured this would be the best time to start. Went cold turkey and haven’t had a dip in a week now. Cravings are intense, I’m not sleeping very well, and I’m definitely irritable. I bought a couple cans of Grinds to at least fool myself into thinking I can still dip. Hating the transition, but know it’s for the better.




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    • Hey Kevin,

      I’m on day 7 too. I’m 30 but after reading your situation, mine is very comparable. Agree about the after dinner and ball game chews 🙁 I’ve been having trouble getting to sleep, but when I finally do it has been less interrupted and with less crazy dreams. Physically, I’ve felt great. But yeah the cravings are strong and after work or when driving I put in a lifesaver mint to help cuz I feel like a cut off my arm or something. I do find I am no longer saving every water bottle I come in contact with and my car is much cleaner!
      Yesterday, day 6, something new happened where I started craving these non-pareils (chocolate) in my freezer. Been craving sweets like crazy the last 2 days and I don’t eat much junk food. Not sure what the deal is there. But I can already feel the difference at the gym. Anyway, just sharing my story. Hang in there




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  45. Day 440………… truly can’t believe it. If you would’ve told me 441 days ago I would be in this position I would’ve bet the world that you were wrong.

    As so many others have said, speaking for myself at least, there were 2 things that made this attempt different:

    1) I wanted to quit. For years, everyone would tell me to quit. Asking, begging, pleading…. I kid you not, my wife is a dental hygienist…. real fun conversations we had. The thing is, until I alone truly wanted to quit, all that noise from all those other people only accomplished one thing: me digging my heals in even harder.

    2) For me, the biggest thing was one day at a time. Actually, the first few days I broke into 15 minute segments. “If I can get through this 15 minute window, I will keep going.” And as the days went on, those 15 minute windows became 30 minute windows, and then 60. The minutes became hours and they eventually became days.

    Do I miss it? Sure, I LOVED it, I mean I loved to chew…….. everything about it. But it got to a point that I had to decide if I loved chew more than myself, more than my wife and children…….. more than my future.

    Was it worth it? Absolutely. I sleep better, I feel better. I go to bed when I am tired rather than fighting to stay awake to get that last dip. I don’t chew during movies, sporting events, car rides (that was my favorite), in the shower……… the point being, I have regained control. Chew doesn’t control me…… honestly, no different than an alcoholic or drug addict.

    I truly believe it will be a lifelong decision to stay off it, but that’s alright by me.

    Good luck everyone- YOU CAN do it. Embrace the suck…… it’ll be worth it.

    God Bless

    JB




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    • Justin,
      Very well said my friend! We both quit around the same time and you wrote exactly what I’m feeling. It’s awesome to feel free! Always stay quit my friend.




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  46. Day 564. I dipped for well over 25 years. Kodiak was my vice and I dipped a can every 2 or 3 days. I was never able to quit but on Aug 28 2015 i bought some fake dip and just wanted to get through the first day. 564 days later i am so happy i made the choice. The only reason i share this is to encourage you that it can be done. If i can do it you can do it. The key for me was to get some days of no nic in then take pride in those days and realize i can not give them up.
    Good luck,
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  47. 515 days. I am some what reluctant to share my story. I certainly had a tough time in the beginning. I actually fought with quitting for over 10 years. I used to smoke then about 10 years ago i quit that and started chewing. I thought chew would be easier to quit..wrong. Not only does chew give you even more nic i also did not have to go outside anymore to get my fix. Towards the end i had a chew in mouth almost constantly, all waking hours. It got to the point where it didnt make me feel good or relaxed. I did not enjoy it but if i wasnt chewing i would certainly feel it. I couldnt even sit through a 2+hour movie without having a nic fit and either ruining the end of the movie or leaving early so i could chew. I didnt have enough brains to care about cancer but i was sick of being an addict, i didnt want to live like that with nic controlling so much of my life. One thing different with my quit was i never did experience any kind of fog in the beginning? I was certainly an asshole who would bite your head off though. I deleted all my friends from facebook because i would tear into anyone who argued or disagreed with me. Another thing about my quit is not long after i quit i really started feeling the benifits of it. i started feeling alittle better each day and that really helped to fight off the urges to relapse. From what ive read the years or decades of using nicotine created pathways in your brain that associate nicotine use with pleasure. Thats part of why its so tough in the beginning because every time you fight off an urge you are destroying those pathways. But its also why it gets easier as you go. As you destroy those your brain is healing and creating those pathways naturally and you wont need nic to feel good. I remember when i used to chew the horrible tooth aches i had daily. Now my teeth are all solid, no looseness or pain. I imagine if i hadnt quit my front teeth would be rotted out by now. Plus i used to get chest pains like i was having a stroke. Ive lost 25-30 pound since quitting. I used to drink a soda after every chew to get the taste out of my mouth. I just remembered too when i chewed i used to get this cold sickly sweat for seemingly no reason. I have no idea if it was because of all the sugary sodas i drank or all the nictotine in my system or both but that has also quit. i only drink water now and i dont even eat dinner anymore(because i cant afford it not because of quitting chew lol). Besides exercising i found i feel even better eating healthy natural foods like fruits and vegetables. This stuff i do today i dont do because i feel like i have to, i do it because i want to because it does make me feel better/good. If someone had told me i had to do all this when i quit theres no way i would have made it but it comes naturally. As Your mind and body will heal you will want to do more in life. The amount of energy and motivation i have gained naturally. I spent alot of today laying in the backyard soaking up the sun (getting a sunburn). This morning out walking my dog watching the sun come up. Saw a huge golden eagle. Sat and watched him for maybe 30 min. All these ducks and geese i see flying over makes me feel good, i think winter is finally over. I would have never even given a sht if i was still using nicotine. I try hard to tell people that i know who still use tobacco how much better life is without it but its true you really have to want to quit to do it. I never knew what i was missing out on when i was using and i probably wouldn’t have listened or believed either.




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    • Wow, that’s a great story! Good for you and I can honestly say I’ve gone through much of the same myself, more energy, feeling healthy, the list goes on. Get over NIC and your life changes forever.




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  48. 22 year old here living in south Florida. I’ve dipped a can a day of Copenhagen wintergreen long cut since I was 16 years old. I just got back from a camping trip in the Florida keys that me and my father had planned for a while. I intended on cutting cold the day of that trip. I told myself I wouldn’t bring a can or purchase one right before from a nearby gas station or so forth. I initiated the plan and put into action, my quit date is March 11th 2017 and in 5 hours at 6 pm eastern it will be 48 hours since I’ve had a lip. I’m worried for my first big driving trip in a while, that was my biggest trigger any drive over 10 minutes I threw a hog in. I think I’m gonna have to put down the gaming consoles also because it just doesent feel right playing without a lip in. I understand progress is a process I just need some reassurance. 6 year dipper 22 years old trying to turn it around before I dig my hole to deep. I’ve read the stories on this forum and its honestly eye opening.




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    • Hey Danny – if you’re having a hard time doing things you’ve always done with a dip in (like gaming) there are a ton of nicotine and tobacco free dips out there that may be very helpful: https://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/smokeless-alternatives/




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    • Keep it up Danny. I quite Saturday March 11th around 5pm. I am at work, I usually dipped all day, every day at work. The struggle is real, but We can beat it.




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    • Kudos to you Danny, I have been quit 2 yrs this Feb & I’m 46 & I know there’s no way I would’ve out down this poison when I was 22. Let me echo Chewie’s words, get some fake dip & don’t be afraid to use it. Wintergreen is the most widely made fake dip, try Hooch, Smokey Mt, Truimph. Teaza is a great pouch product. Check in here often too. Good luck Danny, you can do it.




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  49. Nick, after 20 years of dipping I had had enough. I did what you are doing with the gun for about a week to minimize withdrawals. After a week I was nicotine free. Now I am on day 70! You will get there.




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  50. Currently on day 83 being nic free. I am 21 years old and have been dipping skoal daily for 6 years or so and was up to a tin a day for the past 4 years. 83 days ago I drove my father to the hospital because he had a yellowish tint to his skin. Turned out his liver was failing due to alcohol and the doctors only gave him a 40% chance of making it through it. That day I promised him I will never do dip again if he never touches the bottle again. Amazingly 83 days later my dad is only a couple weeks away from being released from the hospital and is expected to make a full recovery. Seeing him go through that hell from his addiction really opened my eye. It’s been a extremely hard 83 days especially with my baseball season now in full swing. My timeline went like this. Day 1-20 was all a fog I never thought I would make it but I just kept pushing and eventually made it out of that fog. Now I have my bad and good days still. A few weeks ago I was driving home from school one night (about an hour drive) I expierenced a terrible panic attack. I knew nic was the reason I was expierencing it because every time I was driving I would have a lip in especially at night. I’m now trying to avoid driving at night after that terrible experience.

    The reason I found this site is because I’m sitting on a charter bus driving to Florida for my baseball teams spring break trip. I loaded up for the trip with many bags of seeds while my teammates fill their checks with dip. I’ve spent 2 hours now reading everyone’s comments and story’s and they have helped me a ton on this drive. Thank you all.

    I refuse to give up. I refuse to let everyone down. Addiction is a terrible thing let’s all keep pushing and do it together.

    God Bless




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    • Thanks for sharing. 45 days quit. I just turned 41 and was 11 when I started lifted dip from my old man. I honestly can’t say that in 30 years I’ve gone more than 18 months without cigs or dip.

      KTC is the first thing I look at in the morning. I read most every comment and find belonging and strength in a brotherhood of quiters​.

      I quit with all of you today.




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  51. Day 8 no snus!




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  52. 7 days no snus!




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  53. I’ve made it to day 10. Using Nicolette gum has helped me with extreme cravings, I only use 1-2 pieces per day max,none today. I highly recommend trying it over any fake dip, IMO oral fixation is only cured by the real thing. Currently having trouble sleeping but it’s all worth it. I hope to check back in at 2 weeks. Best of luck to the rest of you out there.




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    • Lose the gum, Nick. You are still a slave to nicotine – which is the root of the problem. Quitting cold turkey is, statistically, the most successful method of quitting. Justin R day 110 no nic




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  54. Day-5. I pledge not to chew today and forever! I swear to eat / chew healthy food and drink lots of water




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  55. Day-4. I pledge not to chew today and forever!




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  56. 74 days quit. Today has been a very tough day, I’m stressed and all I can think of is just packing a lip. My gums hurt from the amount of gum I’ve chewed today….battling!




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  57. 202 days free of tobacco today! Feels really good and thanks for everyone on this site, If it had not been for everyone’s testimonies, I probably would have failed. Knowing everyone else is going through the same thing really helps a lot! I quit with all of you today!




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    • Yes the support is huge, 109 here and doing well. Energy levels are returning to normal as well! Stay strong everyone!!




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  58. Today’s day 1 of my journey to quit. Been chewing the past 7 years. Wish me luck guys!!




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    • I wish you all the luck – stay the path. This is my one year anniversary today and I feel much better for it.




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      • Will do. Thanks for the support. This is a big step in the right direction. I just need to buckle down and stay tough. Congrats on the one year anniversary. That’s awesome news to hear!




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    • This was my quit day 4 years ago. Best decision I ever made. Couldn’t have done it without this site. Good luck and stay quit!




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    • Day 72 for me, Thank you everyone for the motivation in knowing your not alone.
      I’m rock solid, I do miss it though. All I know is I cannot do that first 2 weeks again.
      34 years, can of skoal a day…good luck guys, stay strong




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      • I too have chewed for over 30years. Finally quit a little over a month ago. Weird thing is I get this periodic swolling on tip of my tongue almost like an allergic reaction. Have u heard of anyone experiencing that ?




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    • I’ve been a week free as of yesterday. I dipped for 8 years. Just chew a lot of gum




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  59. 509 days Thinking back you know its crazy all this time i never read any of these cancer stories on this site until just now. I remember when i used tobacco i was so miserable and depressed i didnt give a F— if i got cancer. My mindset was id just end it myself if that happened. I have changed so much since quitting i cant even comprehend the person i used to be. When i quit tobacco i also quit drinking. I knew drinking would be a trigger. As i went on i slowly picked up more good habits like eating less, eating healthier and lifting weights. That certainly helped. when id get a craving id do a set and by the time i was done the craving would be gone. Plus the healthier i got the easier it was to resist and the more i did not want that shit in my life anymore. At the doctors office a few months ago i weighed myself and ive lost alittle over 20 pounds since i quit. It continues today. A few months ago i cut my soda consumption down to 2 a day then just 2 a week then 3 weeks ago i quit drinking any soda. I had been feeling even better, jogging and enjoying life even more. Then i had a seizure 4 days ago. Ive had them for decades but when i used tobacco i used to have them bad and every single month. Sometimes taking a week to recover. After quitting nicotine i only had 3-4 all of last year and they were not that bad. It isnt so much the seizures as the postictal recovery. It leaves my brain just fried for days like i am on some kind of narcotic. This last one i had was bad and i am still somewhat awkward. There were a few times in my confusion i was looking around for a can of chew and it took a second before i remembered that i had quit chew a long time ago. Then i would be jonesing for a few min? It has been a long time since ive had an urge to use chew and it caught me off guard. Thank god i did not screw up. I think i am starting to feel better today. My mind is somewhat hazy but that could be partly because my stinking dog woke me up at 1am this morning. I think he was having a nightmare or he heard something because he was acting scared panting and shivering. Of course now he is fast asleep and here i am 4 hours later wide awake lol. I know i dont get on this site enough. Sometimes i will go days without even thinking about nicotine. Before these last couple of days i dont even remember the last time i had an urge to chew. Since quitting its odd how my sense of smell is starting to come back but i cannot stand the smell of cigarrette smoke or alcohol(luckily since quitting i havent been around one person who was chewing). I never knew how bad that shit stunk to other people when was doing it around them. Anyway sorry for ranting. All you guys early on in your quit or just starting stick with it. My biggest regret Is i did not quit sooner, i could have saved myself years of being a slave to that crap and been getting so much more out of life. Uuurrgghhh….. guess its time to get up. if my dog thinks hes getting a long walk this morning he already ruined his chance for that one today. >= (




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    • I know… nobody is going to touch that one with a ten foot pole lol. Thats ok i dont blame you. My doctor i dont think even knows what to tell me except to keep throwing medications at me. I hate these godam seizures. Like i said since i quit nicotine they have gotten less frequent and less intense for the most part. I had 2 in jan and was able to just shake them off the next morning and within an hour or two was fine but this last one kicked my ass. My brain still feels alittle shaken but im feeling alot better tonight. Thank christ i had enough sense and did not screw up my quit. To alot of you guys just starting out one thing that really helped me is to just get on this site and rant when i was having a rough time. It still helps even if it seems like nobody’s listening its good to just get it off your chest if youre stressed or overwhelmed. P.S. my spoiled dog still got to go for his long walk tonight anyway and even got a chewy but he goddam better let me sleep tonight.




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    • Unreal post Tom. I’ve had a couple seizures as well – 2 in the last 10 years, and yes, they suck bad. I cannot imagine having them with the frequency you have. Thank you for the amazing post. All the lifestyle changes you have made are truly inspiring. Good for you! Day 39 for me. Stay quit and stay healthy.




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      • Appreciate it Dizzle. As my head started feeling better i was feeling dumber for possibly making an ass of myself on this site while my brain was recovering lol. Im feeling 100% better today thank god. Been exercising like crazy today, went to the store and restocked on my healthy food, carrots, apples etc and feeling better. I am just thanking my lucky stars i had enough sense to not throw away my quit. It would not have made me feel any better, it would have killed any motivation i have gained since quitting. Grats on 39 days. Stick with it, i promise you it is worth it. Some of the stuff today i would have never taken the time to enjoy when i was using nicotine. This morning, getting up before dawn to go walk my dog. Sitting out in the field about a mile from my house watching the sun rise. Watching the birds and other wildlife. Just taking my time enjoying life today. I never would have using nic, i would have just be in a hurry to get it over with and get back home. I would have never guessed that my life would have changed so much for the better before i quit. The crazy part is it came naturally with time. I dont push myself today because i feel like i have to, i do it because i want to and because i know it will make me feel even better. I sleep better now(when my stinking dog doesnt wake me up lol), i have more energy, i have more motivation, my patience is 100x what it used to be and im no longer a short ahole to people who might be doing things i find irritating, i feel i want to help people now. All the new hobbies i enjoy like lifting weights, archery, bird watching, reading, all kinds of things. i am more interested in life today and if i had never quit i would have never known what i was missing. I know it sounds hokey but it is the truth. Thats why my biggest regret is i did not quit sooner.




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    • My husband wants to quit but he doesn’t know how, he feels helpless. I sent this link to him. I hope he reaches out. We have 4 children, one who recently had a heart transplant and is 15 months. Today my husband is going to see a Dr. for a nagging pain in his neck, he’s worried it’s something major. Im not sure what to expect with the visit our his writing but I plan on reading these posts to try to understand. Thank you for sharing…I’m glad I found this site!




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  60. 2nd clean day followed by 4 days of relapsing and 10 days on nic. gum.
    Yesterday found cyst on my tonsil, looking reddish but not hurting, though saw ENT. Need to wait for 7 days. Biopsy if no joy 🙁




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  61. Day 80 and feeling similar to you… I get tired of the triggers but keep battling through them.




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    • Honestly, that’s why I carry gum and a deck of cards. Shuffling is actually quite therapedic.




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    • Good for you, stay strong.

      I’m at Day 105, been clean the entire time but now I am doing Smokey Mountain about 3 days a week, might by a tin once every 8 days. Should I work to knock that out as well? It’s not cheating but in a way I feel it is, satsisfying the oral fixation piece.




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      • Ruckus i am on day 557 and still throw in a Jakes or Teaza because of the same reason. The important thing is to be nic free so keep doing what you are doing that got you to day 105. I can tell you i do use the fake stuff less and less but its nice to have it there when u need it.




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        • I’ll trust your judgement, thank you. Would feel better if I quit the fake stuff for sure. That’s my next step.




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      • Everyone here is awesome
        I’ll be joining you all soon
        Hopefully gonna be starting a new job so I have to quit
        24 now dipped since I was 14 I did it before and I was about 2months in and I had no cravings and didn’t even think about it then I got kicked out and just said F it
        After that pinch I should of kept continuing to not dip BEACAUSE that dip I took it didn’t even feel like I got anything out of it
        But sure enough I kept throwing em in and I started to feel like I needed it again
        Well I got to that point of being sober as a dumb kid
        I know now at 24 I could out do my last run
        Here’s to the future anxiety and pins and needles fellas
        See you soon




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  62. Today marks day 50 for this guy. It’s been a challenging ride so far to say the least. I check in on this site at least once a day and I just want to throw a big thank you out to everyone and their support. Keep up the good fight boys!




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    • Day 88…..
      I’m starting to realize what my triggers are.
      After I eat, walking around a store, smell of coffee, ect… The fog is still lingering. But when I come across a trigger, it comes back full bore, its like you’re in your own world!

      But stay strong, and looking forward to day, 89!
      And of course Day 100




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  63. Day 7….. Almost caved yesterday…. But I pushed through it…. I keep on getting these out of body type experiences, anyone else notice that?




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  64. I read it… I’m glad you kept quitting. Hang tough my man!




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  65. Day 506 Ok i was having one F’d up day. I started having seizures last night while sleeping and off and on all day. They leave my brain scrambled like im on some kind of medication. They have gotten much less intense and much less frequent since i quit tobacco. Then i started getting urges out of nowhere? I dont even remember the last time i had an urge to go get some chew but im sure it was close to a year ago. What a weird feeling? Even though my brains feeling alittle scrambled now i know better. If i were to give in and go get chew one at this point it would make my head feel even worse and probably sick to my stomach. It would taste like crap and idk if i could even keep it in my lip, i would imagine it would burn. It would screw up me getting to sleep tonight and make these seizures worse . My teeth and gums are completely healed, no loose teeth anymore, bleeding gums or that nasty ass after taste in the morning. If i screwed up now it would probably only take days to fall back down to where i was. When i quit chew it wasn’t making me happy anymore, i was miserable and i used dip because i thought it made me feel normal. Towards the end near when i quit it wasnt even doing that, i was miserable all the time even when chewing. The idea of that shit controlling my life again. I would not give up my quit for anything. Sorry for ranting, my heads still feeling somewhat fubar from these seizures. that urge to chew today caught me off guard.




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  66. Day 37 quit and so far the worst day as far as cravings. Not really tempted, though. 38 days ago I’d be heading out to the store to pick up a can of Grizzly. Today is just another day to fight on.




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  67. Checking in at day 295. Chewed 1-2 tins of Kodiak for 25 years. One thing I never could quite relate to is when others talk about these “sudden cravings out of nowhere”. I felt like I had a constant craving almost every second of every day for 6+ months. If it got any easier it was so gradual I couldn’t notice it. It was a downright stressful period in my life that caused other issues to surface. But now finally in this past month I can finally feel a little bit of relief from this constant struggle.

    I am still on the fake dip although that has even decreased. I have finally found Smokey Mountain pouches to be the best alternative. This surprises me because on Kodiak I would never go with pouches because it wouldn’t have given me the punch I wanted, yet with the fake stuff it is actually more satisfying. And it is a heck of a lot cleaner not to have that dirt and spit all over the place – that actually seems disgusting to think about now.
    Runner up I go with Jerky Chew. It is actually the most satisfying but I will go through the whole can in half an hour. But what the hell for a $1.50 I will buy a can whenever I am at a store that sells it.
    I think I might have actually personally increased the stock of all these products around town.
    Mint snuff – similar to smoky mtn but not as good.
    I bought the sampler pack of Grinds on line and I barely tried it a few times as it didn’t do much for me. They also seem to have very invasive advertising as my computer and phone have since been blitzed with Grinds ads in the middle of articles I read.




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  68. Day 219. Bam. Hang in there everyone.




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  69. Day 56. I’m really craving one pinch right now. I quit during a combat deployment. First time drinking liquor since I’ve been back, it was always beer that made gave me the urge before. Trying to stay strong but it’s hard right now




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    • Oh and some background. Dipped since 2009. At least a can a day. Only long break was 2 months for basic training. Decided to quit cold turkey. Day one was the hardest but after that I was smooth sailing. One day turned into one week and one week turned into one month. Tomorrow marks two months nicotine free, and I’ve made it through everything that sparks the urge but tonight is different.




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  70. Day-1 today, spent past 7 days on nic. gum.




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  71. You can do it… there will be good days and bad days. committ to it, don’t chew. Pay your penance for years of chewing, come out the other side, happier, healthier and wealthier lol




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    • I feel really silly, but how the hell do I post comments on this general discussion board and not just reply to someone’s comment? And how do I actually join a quit group. I’m on my 11th day right now, so I’ve already started, but everytime I click something it bumps me around and back and fourth between killthecan.org and killthecan.org/index – the latter of which is the online community page and has a really difficult to navigate interface. Getting pretty frustrated and I really want to figure this stuff out….




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  72. this is day one of my journey to quit chew. Let me tell you, it is hard. But after reading all of your guy’s comments, I believe, like many of you guys, that this can be done. I believe in all you guys on your journey.




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  73. Day 2….. I have been told I look rough… I feel it….




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    • And while you have a ways to go you should take comfort in the fact that everyday gets easier. Just like atheletes say “one day/game at a time”. Very true, just keep winning and soon it’ll be second nature.




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  74. Today marks 2 yrs nic & tobacco free. Had I not came across KTC when I googled fake dips, no way I would have been able to stay quit. Keep it up quitters, it only gets easier, NO EXCUSES, JUST DO IT.




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  75. Wow 500 days today!! What an absolutely crazy journey to get to this point….but so worth it. I still have issues from time to time….but nothing I can’t handle.

    Life is so much better NIC free!

    Can’t wait to hit 1000 days!!!!!




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    • Hey Craigselk66, congratulations on hitting the big 500! This is an amazing achievement. I hope you give yourself and your family a treat as a reward.




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      • Craigselk66 and Dundippin-
        Congrats men. I’m on day 425. I still want to post questions to both of you as time goes on. I’m doing fairly ok, but if I have any questions further on I know you two will answer! Great Job!




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        • Jake U,
          Sounds good….I’ll try and help in any way possible.

          I’ll be waiting to see ya on the other side of 500 days!!!! You’ll be there before ya know it!!!




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        • Hey Jake U. I with Craigselk66,

          I will be here in any way to help. Feel free to join up so we can share digits in case you need to reach out to anyone.

          Congrats on 425, day 500 is just around the corner.

          I quit with you today.




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  76. Damn i almost forgot. 500 days without nicotine today. Crazy. I am so glad to be finished with that crap.




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    • So how do u feel after 500 days smoke free.
      I’m 115 days smoke free and my head is really bothering me dizzy and headaches




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  77. Hello all… I’m on day 73. 1st time I’ve posted anything but make no mistake this site has helped me tremendously.

    I’m 46 years old, 30 year can+ a day habit. I quit for about a year, but thought after that I could have just 1 dip. I was wrong, I couldn’t.

    I spent the next 10 years being a can a day “ninja dipper”… I hid it from my wife, she occasionally would catch me and it would start a big fight.

    I stumbled across this site in Dec 14th 2016 on my afternoon break and right then and there decided to quit.

    When things get tough on come on here and read all of your comments… so I wanted to share my story and thank each and every one of you for sharing yours.

    Good luck! You can do it!




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    • Wow, sounds like me! First time poster, day 98 and doing alright. 48 YO that did a can a day for 25 years. Can’t believe the control Nic had over my life, never again will I go back. Just registered here but have been lurking everyday and this site is powerful! Hang tough guys!!!




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  78. I figured the best way to break free was to point my feet in the direction of QUIT and run like hell. 30 days quit, 28 days cold turkey.




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  79. Hello friends, last I posted was Day 1 of no dip. I’m on day four as of today technically. Let me tell you…. It’s been a long four days. On the first night of no dip, I couldn’t sleep. My mind was racing, and I didn’t fall asleep until 3 am (keep in mind I work 7a-7p in a hospital) and had work the next morning. I got nicotine patches today, and I feel great so far. I’ve been craving: After eating, driving, work, and before bed. I’ve been hitting the gym extra hard the passed few days and that helps a lot. Also, I’ve been hungry as HELL, and have been eating non-stop. My goal is to put on more weight physically and the gym. Hopefully by quitting, I’ll be saving my life and getting these damn gains! Thanks for all the support, friends.




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    • Glad you are still trying to stick with it. But keep in mind, you are quitting nicotine, not dip. Nicotine patches and other “quitting aides” that have nicotine is not quitting. The hell you went through will always come back once you go completely cold turkey, because its the nicotine leaving your body that puts you through hell. It’s best to go through the hell once and never look back. Get rid of the patches, gum, inhalers, etc. You can do it. I chewed on ginseng root to help with the fatigue and fogginess during those early days.




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    • Hey Evan, Have you registered with the forums, and posted roll with your quit group? You should definitely check it out, if you haven’t already.




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    • Evan, you are one day 1 tomorrow if you throw that shit away. Don’t make any excuse. Throw the patches in the fucking garbage.




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    • I used melatonin to help me sleep, helped immensely. I think it helped mentally, I was nervous I wouldn’t be able to sleep. Day 4, I’ve finally exited the fog.




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  80. Just happen to stumble onto your site …Wow! Didn’t realize how bad I wanted to quit until I got here. Sooo wish I had found this place sooner!
    I’m 50 years old … been chewing since I was 14, and I mean everyday all day. Quit for a week here and there, but always found a reason to pick up another can and get back to chewin. Thanx and congratulations to all who have written their stories of success here …because I really never thought it was possible to just quit and be done with it.
    Kind of nervous writing this … because It kind of feels like I’m cutting off a piece of myself right now … but, TODAY I QUIT!




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    • Good stuff bud! Today is day 4, and it’s tough. Good luck to you my friend. Stay strong and keep an iron will.




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    • I’m on day 40 and man I understand what you are going thru, stay strong man it will get easier
      I have a calendar that I mark each day




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    • I’m 51, been dippin skoal fine cut since I was 15. I took my last dip on Feb 3rd, almost 4 weeks ago. First few days were tough to get through the nicotine draw. After that it’s easier at times but harder than hell at other times. Thought I was going to break down and have a big fat dip last night, my mind was was really playing tricks on me, but I made it through. I’m not taking a dip today! Can’t wait to report my 100 day without skoal!




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    • Kirt, I turned 60 years old last spring, done it , Copenhagen, since 1971. All day every day. Numerous times quit here and there. Always rationalized a reason to go back. I really encourage you, it ain’t easy. Like the song,, there’s a devil in the bottle and he wants to see me dead….except it’s no bottle it’s a little can. Lot’s more I could say but sometimes too much talk sounds like preaching.




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  81. Forget tomorrow being your first day. What is the matter with today?




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  82. Hello friends, tomorrow is day 1 of quitting. I work full time in an inner city ER, and it’s very stressful and that is the main reason why I dip a can a day. I see a lot of sick people, and I’ve got this constant nagging anxiety that I have oral/throat cancer. I went to my dentist and they scanned me for any abnormal cells and I was clear. Still, I’ve been having reoccurring sore throats, my tonsils were bleeding earlier. I know you’re not supposed to google symptoms, but I did. Which is another cause of my anxiety about cancer haha. Anyway, glad I found this site. Wish me luck brothers and sisters.




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    • Great decision to quit Evan! I’m fairly new to KTC as well. My best advice is join the site, go to quit groups, and join “Pre HOF May 2017”. You will find a wealth of knowledge about what you are going through and what you will go through. More importantly, you will find a group of people (just like you) that will do what they can to support you through your quit. No luck needed, just fight like hell each day to stay quit.




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    • Hello Evan, I highly highly suggest getting some things in place to lean on during your quit, some fake dips, something to help with the stress. Checkout the fake dip review section here. I quit & the stress got the best of me, ended up in the ER due to an anxiety attack. Never caved, but make no mistake, it is hard. Will be 2 yrs quit next week & proud to say I never cheated once. You can do it, exercise, get fake dip, ignore your asshole friends that give you a hard time, check in heard often. Good Luck.




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    • Tomorrow should be day 2. Why put it off?




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    • Tomorrow is day 1 for me as well. I’m here right alongside you!




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    • Good luck and take it 1 hour at a time, then 1 day at a time, then 1 week, etc. It’s brutal in the beginning. Personally I couldn’t do the fake dip. I tried it with past attempts and it maintained my habit without the satisfaction, so I eventually caved. I am 115 days in now, best yet. I did have to find things to curb my oral fixation, ginseng root, gum, and cinnamon sticks, while still being different enough to break old habits and train new ones. That all this is after the first week, is retraining your brain and your body into healthier habits. The first week is sheer will power of not giving in.




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    • Good luck Evan. I know how hard it is to not dip especially in a stressful situation. I recommend going to the gym if you don’t already. It’s a great way to spend time without the desire to dip. It also reduces stress. Good luck!




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    • Hey Evan – the trick is to stay focused on what / why you are quitting…. Sounds like you are already there. The withdrawal is predictable so pay attention to the bad mood you are about to experience for the next 3 weeks. There is a weird fog that happens for another 6 months. Good luck




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  83. day 269 for me. I am 40 yrs old and I wish I was smart enough to never pick up the habit @ 14. I still salivate like crazy and wake up choking on spit. I think they are chew dreams. I need to lose weight (6,1- 225 lbs), My suits are all tight. But I do not care… I am not going back to chewing that weed… Life is short.. too short to be stuffing dip in my mouth and missing out on living. I miss my roll call group from time to time and hope they are all doing well… I could not of gotten started quitting without them or this site. (Rock on Brothers!,I wish you all very much a ton of success in your quit!)




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  84. I’m on day 74. Still in a pretty dense fog. Is this normal? Some days are worse than others. The anxiety has toned down quite a bit. Just fog.




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  85. Day #460: Yes, I still get cravings from time to time, particularly a certain time. However, I wanna post something that I don’t think has been touched on which may still have an affect on us and don’t know it. How many of you experience some anxiety or irritability just after dinner? For me, this is still a bit of a struggle. I get really jumpy and moody after I finish eating. I think it is because that was when I would dip. I know we ALL remember how good a chew or dip was right after you finished eating, especially after pizza! Just like smokers do! Anyways, this has become the worst part of my day. If I go out for a walk or drive, I’m fine; but if I stay home and watch news or whatever, I’m just in a restless mood! I have just not found that replacement for chew yet, the after-dinner mint I’m still craving. At any rate, my spirits are fresher and I feel so much cleaner; I just never imagined, like so many of us, that this would be such a battle! I hope this post relates to someone and that your feeling on this is not a solitary one. Stay strong!




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  86. Day 517 I was walking around and my mouth tasted like I had a dip in. A genuine dip. Had not thought of that taste since I quit. It was weird. How could I be tasting a dip with no dip in my mouth. No wad under my lip. I wonder if this has happened to anyone else.

    Then day 520 I got the craves again. Not as bad as in the past but I got them. I thought about something else and went about my day.

    I had posted earlier that all was well now that I hit 500 and the craves were over. I guess you can never let your guard down.

    Day 522, I quit with you today.




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    • Hello-
      This is Jake U. I haven’t posted in awhile but have a few questions. For Dundippin I have a question for you. Do you experience any fatigue this far into your quit? How about any headaches or dizziness 517 days into your quit? Just wondering because I’m 408 days into my quit and still experience these symptoms. And Craigselk66, we’ve spoke before-but how are the symptoms now? I was wondering about any level of fatigue that you’re experiencing this far into your quit. And if you’re still experiencing fogginess and/or headaches? Thanks.




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      • Hi Jake,
        Yes I do experience some fatigue. Thought it was more because I am 61 rather than being quit. This usually comes about when I go a day or two without working out. I really lose energy when I do not work out so I always try to get even a light cardio (bike and calisthenics ) every day.

        As to headaches or dizziness, I only get these when I do not eat a meal. I become a monster when I miss a meal. For me it is critical to eat breakfast, lunch and dinner the same time every day. If I miss slightly then I do get dizzy, headaches and all around grouchy.

        It is like common sense. Most advice is common sense but we do not follow our common sense and that is why there are so many Career and other coaches preaching common sense.

        I suggest that if you eat 3 healthy square meals a day, workout every day and get 8 hours of uninterrupted sleep that your fatigue and headaches will go away.

        Also did you give up coffee when you quit because it was a trigger? Perhaps have a little coffee in the morning, it constricts blood vessels in your brain which may help with your headaches and dizziness.

        Stay quit. I quit with you today.




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        • Dundippin-
          Thanks for the reply. I do still drink coffee. And I eat three healthy meals a day. Maybe I’m just experiencing different withdrawal symptoms than others. Craigselk66 was experiencing some of these symptoms. Hopefully he replies.




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          • Jake U,
            Sorry I was MIA….we were on a family snowmobile trip and i had no cell reception.
            Here’s my update….headaches seemed to subside for quite a while, but then out of the blue I had headaches again last week. They are fine again now.
            The dizziness also seems to be getting better…..as Dundippin has stated…..consistent meals and some caffeine are the key for me. When i get hungry and blood sugar drops…..I get “lethargic”…..which seems to be a form of dizziness. And also certain lights trip the trigger for dizziness for me also….almost overwhelms my brain.

            Other than that….I continue to heal and creep up on 500 days!!

            Whenever I have a question or concern I’ve been reaching out to Dundippin….feel free to look me up on the board and shoot me a message…..




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    • JCB… I’m day 50, can a day for 34 years….. I’m doing well, I still crave it but I’ can’t do those first 2 weeks ever again….sheer f’ing misery.
      I’m working outside and would love one but I’m standing strong and just NOT going to do it…. If I can do it everyone can….cold turkey, no substitutes, smokey whatever, I’m over it…Let’s get on with it




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  87. On my 4th day of dip free. Absolutely losing my mind, getting extremely frustrated easy over nonsense. Haven’t used any alternatives. Quit cold turkey after having chewed for 8 years.




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    • DO NOT go it alone, get some alternatives, go to the review section & check them out, way too easy to get your hands on some good stuff. Another DO NOT, do not think some fake dip will replace what you dipped, won’t happen. Good Luck, you can do it.




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    • Barnswing,
      I am with you. I had rages into my 400s. Make sure you do alot of cardio workouts that will wear you out so you get rid of that extra energy. Make sure you eat 3 square meals a day. Do not pass a meal up. That could add to the tension and rages. Get plenty of sleep.

      I finally felt clear of the frustration and rages by mid 400s.

      I quit with you today.




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    • Funny, you have same quit date as me and chewed about the same length of time. First four days were really not awful compared to previous quit attempts but today has been a complete blur. Can’t focus to save my life, literally, pretty sure I ran a red light earlier today just completely zoned out.




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  88. Today is day 47 of the quit. Can per day habit x 30 years. Went cold turkey for the first 3 weeks and was out of my mind. I then started using the Smokey Mountain product and it really made a difference. I’m also starting to drop the 15 lbs I gained in the first 20 days of the quit. Never ever going back. For those of just starting your quit, it will absolutely suck for the first week. But IT WILL get better.




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  89. I am started to quit I am dipping smokey mountain Wintergreen. It very good




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  90. Hey guys, i’m on day 3 of quitting dip. Started dipping 4 in a half years ago when I played baseball. If anybody is having any questions about quitting, I found switching to different chew products that had less nicotine in it was a good way to start. Chew something you don’t care for, for me it was dark grizz long cut. Cope was my favorite but whenever I tried to quit cold turkey from that it was nearly impossible to do so. This time quitting, since I switched products I found the cravings to be a little more manageable and easier to deal with. They still suck though, the fogginess is still lingering and felt even a little nauseous yesterday. Can’t wait for the first week to be done. Good luck to you guys.




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    • Have now gone 48 hours as of 2-15-2017 Don’t know if I will make 48 more without copenhagen. Need something to put in mouth. Keep eating things but soon to full to eat any more.




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  91. Well today i made the decision to quit chewing tobacco. I have been chewing a can and a half a day for 8 years. Im only 24 and I really dont want this bad habbit to control my life anymore… Here goes nothing!




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  92. Today is day 7 tobacco free for me. I miss it big time, but a little less each day. Any healthy alternatives you could recommend? I was a Kodiak user for 20 years and miss that minty burn…




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  93. Today makes me a year tobacco free, couldn’t have done if I never found this site, thanks guys.




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  94. The mental games are real. It’s easy physically but so much stuff makes you want to put another one in. I’m spitting my last chew out right now. Of course cancer can happen to anyone at anytime. But I’d rather not let this be the cause. Pray for me and others❤️




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    • Luke, hope you’re still in there, the mental part is so real. You can be down the road two, three weeks and some devil pops up in your head and says, one can’t hurt. I will pray for you.




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  95. Anyone remember Ernest from Ernest goes to camp, Ernest goes to jail etc? I couldnt remember what happened to him? Looking online turns he was a heavy smoker and died of cancer. According to imdb when he found out he had cancer he threw away his cigarettes and quit cold turkey but it was too late. Everyone on here just starting out on your quit or considering quitting keep that in mind, when you get diagnosed with cancer you will quit anyway but it will be too late. Idk why just thought id share that, i had no idea he was dead?




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  96. Today is day 199. I hit 200 days of freedom tomorrow. Unbelievable. It just proves it can be done. 41 years of bandage. Long gone pecan.




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    • Hey Doug, my fiancée just started to quit today. I know he could really use someone who can understand what he’s about to go through. If you are willing I’d love to get you guys to connect. My email is lr_rock@hotmail.com. He has been dipping since he was a kid and he is 41 now.
      Congratulations on hitting those 200 days of freedom! I’m impressed.




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      • Hey Laura. It is hard to quit and your fiancé will need your help and support. I am doing it without support but I know how great it would have been to have someone there for me. Stay strong. I’m on day 188. Most days I’m fine but I still get urges. I’m sure one dip would put me back to day one. Good luck !!’




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  97. I recently decided to quit thanks to a close family friend who has known me since I was born. We were heading to a gun show and I put a chew in and he said “You should really quit that” I replied “Why you do it” and laughed. He said ” He said my life is half over you have plenty of time to change yours, I’ve been doing this shit longer than you’ve been alive.” I’m 24 and have been chewing for 4 years. My wife and I are also expecting so that is added motivation.




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  98. Quitting is hard, but if you don’t you’ll lose more than your dignity. I’m 28 and I’ve lost most of my teeth and have gum disease.




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  99. Wanting to quit, any tips for the first few days. Also any tips for convincing myself to start day 1?




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    • If you’re looking for convincing, you’re not ready.

      You need to make your decision. https://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/the-decision-to-quit-dip/

      Only YOU can make it. When you do, you’re in the right place. Check out our forums: http://forum.killthecan.org/ With nearly 30,000 members it’s the best place going to get support and questions answered by people who know exactly what you’re dealing with.




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      • Chewie, this site is awesome. Day 188 and could not have done it without this site and the daily reminder it brings. Just reading the entries on this site is enough to keep you going. Thank you Chewie.




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    • Look @ the pictures & think of yourself!! It is a reality!!! Make sure you are doing this for you #1!! You have the most to gain – long term!! Depending on the amount that you chew, you may want to cut down first, for a week! Then go cold turkey. It only takes 3 days for it to get out of your system – physically!! Then the mental game begins. Know what to be expecting along the way. Stay Busy exersizing – working around the home etc… Tell whom ever you live with on how to help for the first few days. Walk away from the emotions and go cool off! I have been cold turkey for 19 days after chewing for 30 yrs. So I am w/ you!!!!!




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      • Josh…..Good man !! Proud of you brother, I’m rock solid at 52 days after 34 years, can a day….back at farm , my helpers chew every day, doesn’t bother me one bit….
        I absolutely cannot go through that first 10 days again…. I would love to eat the top off of a skoal can and I’m not going to do it…. I’m golden gentleman…. ALL OF U CAN DO THIS…. I did…..




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    • Tips? It’s called Smokey Mountain Wintergreen and Triumph Wintergreen herbal chews. Don’t know exactly what kind you dip but I was always a Wintergreen guy. Do NOT and I mean DO NOT put a dip in or smoke a cigarette whatever you do. My advice is to go with the nicotine free herbal chews, but if you feel like you needs to ween yourself off nicotine Triumph is designed to do that for you as they have different levels of nicotine in their fake chew. I’m on day 36 of my quit after 15 years of the nasty habit brother. If I can do it anyone can. Your first month is really gonna suck if you decide to go cold turkey, but I can tell you slowly but surely the withdrawal symptoms get better. Come back to the site if you ever feel the need to vent your frustrations because of withdrawal. We’ll all be here. As one already mentioned. Look st the pictures of what this crap can do to you. That is one of the biggest motivators that makes me stay quit.




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    • Go and Google pictures of mouth cancer…..if you still need any convincing after that then you are beyond help

      Bill D…day 109




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