Symptoms of Quitting Dip and Chew

Symptoms When Quitting NicotineQuitting dipping is not an easy thing… if you’re like most of us, when you quit you’ll go through some withdrawal symptoms… These are completely normal. That being said… if you are concerned about a particular symptom, by all means go to a doctor and get checked!!! This will help both your peace of mind and may catch something before it gets serious.

Dip Dreams – you’ve been dipping for years sometimes decades. Your brain is used to thinking a certain way with a certain amount of nic in it… once that’s taken away many people have “dip dreams”. These dreams range from mild to incredibly intense. Many times people will wake up after a dip dream and feel terrible because they really think that they caved. Many have reported that they can taste and smell the dip. Never fear… it’s only a dream.

Sores In Your Mouth (lip, tongue, cheek, etc.) – you’re done dipping… why does your mouth hurt so damn bad? You’ve got more sores in your mouth now than when you were dipping. What’s going on?!? There are a couple of explanations for this one. First, if you’re like most of us, you’ve found something to replace your dip to get you past the oral fixation (See Smokeless Alternatives). If you’re chewing seeds then there’s a TON of salt in your mouth that wasn’t there before. Also once you get dip out of your system the PH balance in your mouth is changing. Bottom line is this – get to a dentist and get checked out. But unless something stays around for more than two weeks you should be good to go.

Can’t Sleep – you’ve quit dipping and now you can’t sleep at all. Never fear, this is completely normal experience. It’ll take a while, but your sleep patterns will return to normal.

The Fog – you’re dizzy… you can’t think straight… your head hurts… you find yourself staring at your computer screen for hours on end not reading anything. Welcome to the dip fog. Your brain can’t handle the fact that you’re no longer feeding it dip. It might last just a couple of days and it might last a couple of weeks. Do not fret… once the fog lifts you’re well on your way to being dip free. Check out this article that Chewie has written about The Fog of Quitting Dip

Headaches – you might have one that brings you to your knees, or you might just have that dull thud feeling all day long — this too shall pass.

Sore Throat – If you’re a dipper and you quit you’re scared of anything that’s “off”. Why when you quit dipping do you suddenly get a sore throat? We’re not sure why but it happens more often than you’d think. Drink lots of water to keep yourself hydrated. This will help flush the nicotine and will help with your sore throat.

Anxiety – for years you’ve been dealing with life while medicating yourself with nicotine — it’s gone now and your body isn’t used to dealing with life without it. This condition will pass though you may want to talk to a doctor about some medication to take the edge off.

Problems “Going” – whether you know it or not, nicotine is a laxative. It’s helped keep you “regular” through all of your years of dipping. It takes some people a while to get their body adjusted to going without their natural dip laxative. Drink plenty of water and eventually this one will be “behind you”.

Hot Flashes – This one has been reported as a real doozy. Face, arms, legs, etc. can be very “warm” with some intense sweats. While this is a “symptom” it’s also been quite the trigger for some folks. Drink some water, get to the site and talk.

Depression – Many people have dipped for years or decades. Removing such an integral (though deadly) part of your life can lead to some pretty serious behavioral issues including depression. Talk to the folks on the boards as this is pretty common. As with any health issue please don’t hesitate to see a doctor as well. For more details about depression as a quitter click here.

There are a variety of other symptoms that have been attributed to quitting dip. If you don’t see yours listed, contact us and let us know about it!

982 Comments

  1. Its been 48 days since I chewed last. The problem is sore tongue from sides and burning sensation while eating food. I like to know whether other quiters experienced same problem and after how many days mouth healed to eat spicy food. Anticipating honest reply.

  2. Anyone else experience little lesions along the edges of the gums, right next to the teeth? I have some that keep popping up. Some go away after a day or two but some stick around for 3 or 4 days.

  3. Has anyone experienced minor peeling of the guns where you used to hold the chew? I quit 3 weeks ago and noticed some peeling and it’s a little unsettling

    1. Your mouth is healing. You will need to give it time as you will find that you will experience many more things while it heals. Keep checking in and keep asking as that is what has helped me get this far. Day 83 with no nicotine after 30 years of abuse.

  4. I just quit 9 days ago after 5 years and I’m scared I EVER did that shit. I’ve got friends that have been doing it 15-20 years. I was at 2 cans per week. At the time, I wasn’t thinking, but cancer runs in my family (colon, pancreatic, prostate) and at one point I was SWALLOWING all those carcinogens for about a year, so yearh, I’m worried I just invited cancer into my life quicker at age 43.

    MY WITHDRAWAL SYMPTOMS: has anyone experienced these?
    -Tight Chest (worst overall symptom)
    -More mucus/Phlegm (2nd worst overall symptom)
    -Anxiety increased
    -Somewhat foggy brained
    -slight depression
    -lower libido if feels like

    Most worrisome is the tight chest when breathing in or out and mucus and always clearing my throat. Anyone have these?

    Cheers and stay strong. I have ZERO urges cause I’m scare straight right now.

    1. Stay strong with the fight Mark. I am 83 days quit after a 30 year addiction to nicotine. It truly is a rough and scary ride but it does get better. I have been to the family doctor 4 times in last 3 months because of this which is more times then I went in the last 5 years. I did go thru all those symptoms and it was this site that helped me the most. The worst was the sore throat that I had for 3 weeks and nobody knew why at the doctors office then I posted about it here and road it out. Mainly I did not have throat issues as a user so why would they start now. Couple to that the depression and I was a mess which really wiped me out. You will have many weird things go on and the quit timeline for symptoms helps but they come back at any time and you just need to push thru it. I don’t wish this on anybody but when you think about it we could be dealing with something worse. I pray everyday for continual strength to beat this and I will add all my brothers from here to the prayer.Hope this helps give you peace and God bless all.

      1. Thank you, brother! That is great advice. I can go see an ENT if I want to do a scope and see if anything looks bad after 5 years. I’ve heard some unlucky folks do get major problems/cancer in a short period time: bad luck. …My WORST symptom right now on Day 17 is BRAIN FOG!! It sucks bad. And it picks and chooses what day. Yesterday, I felt invincible and Wedendsay and today(Friday) I feel pretty crappy. Just blah, slightly depressed, low energy.

        But, I will soldier on and POWER THROUGH!

    1. How long do some people deal with throat gunk. Am going on about 2 weeks with this weird feeling

  5. Does anyone have a similar experience here? I’ve been off nicotine for about 2 weeks after chewing for 3 years. I’m getting a bad pit in my stomach that takes almost all day to go away. The morning is the worst and it’ll keep me from getting back to sleep whenever I wake up. It feels like I have nerves in my stomach that are going nuts. I also haven’t had an appetite for 2 weeks. Is this normal from withdrawal or maybe not?

    1. I’m not a medical expert so don’t take my advice, but I can say with confidence that what you are going through is 100% normal. I went through a very similar phase where I couldn’t get myself to eat, I had the WORST nerves, anxiety through the roof, and eventually a slight depression. You just have to stay strong and keep fighting, eventually you will win. Talk to your doctor if you feel like there is an underlying issue, but trust me when I say that it is probably attributed to the withdrawal. You got this, brother!

    2. Someguy yes all completely normal I had everyone of those things join the groups I’m bigdiesel90 on the site message me you will get thru this

  6. Can anyone relate to this? I knew I didn’t want to get too deep into chewing, but I enjoyed the buzz so I started using ZYNs instead cuz it’s supposedly “healthier”. Long story short, I have chewed the 6mgs for about 3 years and have managed to get addicted. I chew anywhere from 3 to 8 pouches a day and I’ve been trying to get off them for the last week. I’ve been having bad brain fog and have started getting anxious easily. I can get to bed alright but I’ll wake up in the morning with my heart racing and can’t fall back asleep. When I read about nicotine withdrawal, a common symptom is increased appetite but mine is the opposite. I don’t have much of an appetite and seem to have stomach discomfort throughout the day. Is this a normal thing for some people? I’ve also felt faint/dizzy and my body just seems to be weak the majority of the time.

    If anyone can shed some light on this situation it’d be much appreciated! At this point I keep getting in my head thinking something else is wrong with me. Thanks!

    1. Whats up SomeGuy, what you are experiencing is completely normal for a quitter to experience. I know for me i couldn’t eat anything I basically had to force myself to eat until my appetite came back to normal. Waking up with the anxiety and racing heart were all normal symptoms that i experienced early on in my quit as well. Drop the ZYNs and dive headfirst into the BS. Yes, Its not easy but you’re just prolonging the withdrawal symptoms. Embrace the suck you’ll be glad you did i promise. Join the forums and get in there and talk to some of the other guys. What you’re experiencing is normal just need to talk to more people that have experienced it .

    2. I had low appetite for maybe the first couple months too. It is normal. Like bigdiesl90 said, suck it up! Life is going to be strange for a while, so dig in and ride it out. You WILL be fine and back to normal in due time. Drop the Zin and go for it!

      1. Thanks for the peace of mind bigdiesel & carey. After finally starting the quit and hitting these first few bumps, I’m figuring out quick that the buzz isn’t worth the withdrawal later. Using the pain/weirdness as a motivator is working good so far. Reading these comments has been extremely informative and reassuring. Much appreciated!

  7. What’s up guys! Just figured I’d check in. This last week has been one from hell. I have been sick and man it has really made the quit that much worse. The anxiety/ depression is back and I have been having a few cravings today is 260 for me and I was feeling pretty good before I started getting sick. Just moving forward odaat and can’t wait till this crap ends. Anyone else have a tough spot around here ? And if not have you been sick in your quit does it affect ya mentally ?

    Bigdiesel90
    260 odaat

    1. Say dude, don’t let it get to you. The Nic will kick you while you’re down. I did not get sick around my 200 days, but i did notice a rebound of cravings during those days, they call it the funk. If you are sick and going through the funk that makes it even stronger. The good news is that once you get in your 300s the funk goes away and then go into cruise control. Wait it out, you’ll see it gets better.

      1. Thanks DDD I have been going back in the boards and reading when you guys were around somewhere similar to me. I’m just pushing thru this crap odaat I hate nicotine with a passion just want to feel right again

    2. I’m not where near as far as you are. Day 21 and I’ve been struggling still. I’m hoping these cravings go away soon. I’ve been using Grinds which have helped a lot. Also i have been using an app that calculates my savings (just noticed this site does as well)… that’s the only thing that’s kept me from buying a can is knowing I’ll be back to square 1 and seeing how much I’ve been saving has helped

    3. Hey man. How are your symptoms? It’s been a couple months and I was wondering if you have made it past the funk. I am on day 282 and can relate to the way you were feeling during this post. I am ready to be done with all this so I can move forward. It’s been such a grind everyday.

    1. After dipping for 45 years, I probably quit a dozen times. A couple times it was over a year. Just when I felt like I had everything under control or some life event caused me to think I could take “one dip” what a mistake. I couldn’t do it and I’m guessing you would fall into that trap too. Suck it up, get some tooth picks and carry on. Don’t do any of those non tobacco products either. Day 863 Tobacco free and counting.

      1. Similar…LEO and military veteran…stress or anger always triggered dip relapse. My solution was to face it head on and quit during time of intense stress. It has worked.

  8. Hi guys I am just past 200 days. I have been symptom free for about 3 weeks up until. This last week. Feels like my heart is racing, an anxiety hit me out of nowhere again. Comes at night and a little in afternoon, has anyone experienced this this late in quit?

    1. Hey Dave.. 237 here and yes seems to be pretty normal.. 200+ has been way more challenging than I thought it would be for sure.. but it is getting better

    2. Hey David – I can tell you that’s perfectly normal and I went through it as well. See my long comment below on this same post from back in December. Anxiety is always worse at night, your body is beaten down from the stress of the day. Your body’s N’s mind are still recovering, but they’re getting better all the time. I think you’ll be feeling much better in a few weeks and will continue hitting new milestones of “feeling good” after that. By the time I got into the 240’s I realized I was feeling pretty good, finally got energy back, anxiety way down and fog gone. It only continues to get better! You are really close man to another breakthrough man, just one day at a time.

      -CAL
      Day 330

      1. Just recently quit 3 days ago and my mouth seems to have a numbness to it specially the tongue. Also weird throat sensation. Is this normal?

          1. No problem! If you haven’t yet, I’d urge you to join our forums as well – ktcforum.org – THOUSANDS of daily quitters gettin it done.

  9. I’m on day 862, tobacco free. Still two or three times a week I might think about having a dip. It passes quickly. Just did some rough figuring and I’ve saved approximately $2,300 since I’ve quit. With my health being better and the money I’ve saved, quitting was long over due. Hang on to that rope, never give in.

  10. What’s up guys today is 237, have been doing a lot better but still don’t feel like my fog is over. It has definitely lightened up. Sometimes I notice after meal times I get a craving still here and there and sometimes my mornings are just rougher.. they don’t last all morning like they were but they still suck sometimes. The depression is going away little by little. Did anyone else have a similar experience as this ? I’m just taking it odaat.. somedays I feel like I’m in the clear others I feel like I’m right back in the first 100

    1. Hi Bigdiesel90. I’m on day 351 and I can relate to what you’re saying. My fog is pretty much gone. I do still get cravings. We all have our triggers. You mentioned after a big meal and I get that. Long drives in the car is a major one for me too. Difference between now and earlier in my quit is the cravings go away much faster than they used to.

      Hang in there. It really does get easier as you go along though it’s important to know while it may get easier, it’s always a part of you so don’t let your guard down for a second! Best of luck!

    2. Hey man, you said it yourself – fog is lightening up and depression is going away little by little. Things will continue to get better and you’ll start to have those aha moments where you think “hey I actually feel pretty good today”. For me, one thing I noticed more as I came out of fog/depression in the mid 200’s was that normal everyday things made me smile more, I got excited about the little things in life – friends, family, cup of coffee, cold beer. I felt pretty numb and that everything was “dull” before that. Focus, energy and feelings of being content really started to come back big time after that. On day 330 now I can only say it’s continued to get better.

      -CAL

  11. I’ve quit for about a week now after dipping for almost 10 years and ever since I’ve been pretty light headed and very tired and feeling drained and feeling completely out of it and my mouth has been pretty dry and I’m having this overwhelming sense that something bad is going on and I’ve been in a complete funk ever since I’ve stopped. Is this normal

    1. This is very normal Christian. I have seen hundreds of quitters with your exact symptoms in the KTC quit forums. As long as you stay quit you will get past this and not have to go through it again.

    1. Personally, teeth hurt for a couple months, on and off. Light head, this would come and go up until around day 280. It is just part of the process. Laugh at it, deal with it, and know that much better days are coming.

  12. Day 75 for me, experiencing extreme fatigue and Mouth pain / tooth sensitivity. Been using ZYN pouches to help with the nicotine withdrawals started out using the 6mg pouches for several weeks and then switched to the 3mg pouches and am down to 2 of those per day day. been using the fake dips (tobacco nicotine free) to help with the mouth feel. Lots of weirdness going on I guess it just take time for your body to adjust to the absence of the tobacco ?

    1. Hey Robert, keep going. Drop the ZYN pouches and go for it. We’ve all been where you are bro, it sucks. I had the symptoms you describe and many more. Everything is weird when you quit the nicotine. You have many ups and downs ahead, but I promise you it will be worth it when you get through this.

  13. Hi, i am on day 172, most of the anxiety is gone and most other symptoms like chest pain. I do have 1 bad lingering symptom that just wont go away.. I am pretty much dizzy 60 percent of the day and sometimes with headaches. It can be pretty bad at times. I thought at 172 i would be completely fine. Has anyone experienced these symptoms this late into quit? Some reassurance would be great. If it doesnt go away in the next 30 days i may get an MRI. Blodd pressure is 125 over 80, i am 6’2 190. I feel like i am healhty, i could probably use more exercise though.

    1. Hey David,

      I can give you reassurance that I was still feeling some dizziness symptoms in the 150+ days range.I got occasional headaches around those times too but not as noticeable as the general dizziness feeling. By the time I hit the 200’s, dizziness was gone and has not come back. Dizziness is also a classic symptom of anxiety, so it’s possible you may have some of that lingering as well even though you’re feeling like it’s mostly gone. I think you’re at a point where you’re extremely close to being rid of the dizziness, you just need to push through one last time. It will go away, it’s definitely not something that will hang around forever.

      -CAL

      Day 282

      1. Cal,

        thank you for responding its a very nice feeling someone else has been here. Makes me realize i am not going crazy. I have read some of the other things you have wrote on this page and they are all very informal. Thank you you have been a big help for me and i am sure to others. I will fight through it. I will never go back to nicotine. After experiencing what the body goes through to get back to normal it really paints a picture of of all the damage dip was doing to us. I almost want to apologize to my body lol Enjoy your christmas Cal.. you just helped me more than you will ever know.

  14. Thanks Cal that’s good to hear that your symptoms have faded away. Looking forward to turning that corner eventually. I’m 45 days in and definitely grinding it out. Like you said energy levels are really low, depression, anxiety etc. But it’s definitely encouraging to know theres light at the end of the tunnel.

    1. Chad, no problem at all. It’s going to be a grind, but once you’re there you won’t be looking back at all. You’ll be feeling good! I also wanted to let you know I posted an extended version of my response to you on the other post and several other vets chimed in with experiences similar to mine. It might be helpful for you to take a look and get some reassurance that these symptoms do truly fade away. You’re just still at the point where your brain is trying to trick you that they’ll be here forever.

      https://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/what-to-expect-when-you-quit-dipping/

      -CAL

    2. Why is it worse in the morning im nervouse as hell but im drinkn lots of water and exercising my body is craving go got anxiety i quit cold turkey how long does the side effects take to go away

    3. Im on day 50. Finally starting to have good days here and there which is a positive. The depression and anxiety does slowly subside. Keep trucking.

  15. Any long term quitters on here? Wondering if the depression ever fades away. I’ve tried quitting a bunch of times and can handle the cravings fine, but for some reason somewhere between 3-5 weeks quit I start to get a depression setting in that either doesnt go away or becomes too much and I start dipping again. Everything seems really dull without nicotine. Makes sense when you think about your brain getting an immediate hit of dopamine all throughout the day for years and years when you did chew, and then when you suddenly cut that off, your brain doesn’t know how to deal with it. Just wondering if the brain ever retrains itself or if theres always going to be that dull feeling and chemical imbalance and lingering depression.

    1. Hey Chad,

      I’m on Day 272. The good news is that the depression does fade away. I can tell you in my experience, man it was such a grind. Day after day, the depression was always there and it seemed like it would never go away. You hear guys talking about feeling better after 30 days, 100 days, 200 days…I was still grinding it out! I thought my energy would never come back. I couldn’t believe I was still tired all the time after 200 days of being quit! I did all the recommended stuff – more exercise, tons of sleep, meditation, exercise, vitamins, etc. In the end, I truly believe the thing that helped most was time. I tracked everything I did as well – my mood, my depression, anxiety, eating habits, etc. I can safely say that around Days 235-240 is when I finally started to turn a corner. Depression is now completely gone, energy is back big time. I’m like a whole new person – all it took was time. I’m sure all the “best practice” stuff I did helped, and they’re all good habits anyway, but time was the biggest healer in my opinion (that’s the whole rewiring and dopamine reset that you referred to).

      I can also say that I’m better than I ever remember myself being before dip. I’m hopeful that since it’s been over a month of feeling this way that I’m over the hump, but I’m still vigilant that issues could pop up. Some things just take time and there are guys out there who will go through this stuff for a year or maybe more.

      I would also recommend you check out the comments section on this post – https://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/what-to-expect-when-you-quit-dipping/ – there are several others in my quit range and beyond (1yr, 5yrs, etc.) that comment regularly. You can also look back at our comments and experiences along the way if you haven’t already…lots of good info in there.

      Let me know any other specific questions you have or symptoms you’re experiencing and I’ll get back to you as soon as I can, I’m usually pretty quick to respond.

      What day are you on? Or are you at the point where you’re still thinking about quitting but not there yet?

      -CAL

      1. Hey cal I have read this comment about 20 times.. I just feel like I can relate with what you are saying here I’m on day 213 and feel like this crap is never going to end.. it’s not as severe or bad as in the beginning but still just sucks. I have been eating right, taking vitamins, exercising a decent amount, I feel as the only thing left I haven’t done is give it more time. I just need to learn so patience! Appreciate the post

        1. Hey man – No problem, I’m glad it was helpful. I spent a ton of time reading and re-reading others comments on here as well so I’m happy to contribute. You are so close to being “normal” again! And if you’re like most of us, you’ll be so much of a better version of yourself that you’ll continue to appreciate more and more over time. I can also say that being over 300 days now it’s pretty smooth sailing. Nothing even remotely close to those final depression days in the early 200’s where every day was a grind and I thought it would never end. Check back in and let us know how you’re doing in a few weeks.

          -CAL
          Day 306
          3-13-19

          1. Hey cal hope all is going well… today is 225 for me.. still here still grinding just wanted to pick your brain more about the quit if you don’t mind ? My email is korrots@yahoo.com

      1. My coworker what’s a hardcore Copenhagen user for many years… he began using nicotine gum… he would take turns between taking a chew now and then then using gum… eventually he only used the gum… after a few months he Wyndham self off of the gum by chewing regular gum… the process took about six months… that was in 2017 and he is completely free Ochoa tobacco and nicotine.
        I haven’t had a chew in the six days… I am breaking the mental addiction while using a small amount of nicotine… I am absolutely convinced that this is the way to go for me

  16. Hey guys, really enjoyed reading thru a lot of this. Going thru the “symptoms” now for a second time. I’m a truck driver and was parked in summer heat with a dip in and had a bad panic attack. Scared me and dumped rest of my grizz on the ground and went cold turkey for 60 days. Me and the old lady were having our first child and just felt stressed so I caved and chewed can a day or so again for about a month. Coming back to it tho I felt like that panicked feeling was just sitting there under the surface. So long story short I had went cold turkey again, on day 40 right now. Only drinking water (can’t even tolerate caffeine now with this quit). Week 1-4 felt great compared to my earlier “quit” this year but this last week I just feel restless, hard time sleeping. Heart palpitations lying in bed here and there, yet I don’t even crave the can anymore. Any of you guys have similar symptoms as this, with the skyrocketed caffeine sensitivity and heart palpitations at night, can’t get my mind off of it.

    1. Exact symptoms, Mike. I don’t have the cravings like I did the first few days, but the panicky feelings, heart palpitations, and caffeine sensitivity are intense. Anxiety is through the roof because I’m afraid of an ensuing panic attack. I freak myself out thinking theres something wrong with my head so my thought process is all screwed. I’m honestly happy to see other people experiencing the same thing haha, you’re not alone brother! Keep on kicking this things ass!

      1. Oh my gosh! I’m dealing with the same thing right now! I have stated taking amino acid supplements to try to keep the panic attacks away, and right now, they seem to be doing the job. I have never had panic attacks or any issues with anxiety until I quit and it is absolutely terrifying to me.

    2. Hey Mike,

      Thanks for sharing and congrats on the baby!

      Your story is very similar to mine – we just welcomed our first baby as well so I understand how stressed you are.

      First, what you’re describing is all normal stuff and I went through a very similar pattern to you. I got to the point where I was having anxiety and panic attacks when trying to quit and when going back – it was a terrible cycle. I originally quit in November 2018 and caved in February 2019 around day 90. At that that point, I realized going back to dip was only making me worse and I knew I would be trying to quit again so there was no point in continuing the cycle. I quit again on March 13th and now approach day 250 of being quit. I had the same heart palpitations and feelings of panic sitting there right under the surface. So I want to reassure you 100% that’s all normal stuff and as a fellow quitter I experienced it too. Coffee sensitivity oh yeah!! I don’t even drink it anymore. At least not for the time being, maybe I’ll go back one day. I do remember reading there is some science behind why you need LESS caffeine/coffee when you’re off dip/nicotine but I can’t find the article at the moment.

      I believe the anxiety may continue for a while up until around the 3 month mark then it should start to get better. You may feel more tired/down/depressed at that point than anxious, but that’s a sign that you’re almost near the end. It’s a grind to start feeling “normal” again but you will 100% get there if all you do is stay strong and not dip.

      I would also recommend talking to your doctor for some advice as I am not a doctor and this shouldn’t be taken as actual medical advice. I took a very small microdose of beta blockers (10mg propranolol) to help with the physical symptoms of panic. It’s amazing how much better you can feel when your heart isn’t beating out of your chest, causing dizziness and panic. An OTC sleeping pill might also be good at night. I take a half or 1 tylenol Simply Sleep at times. It helps to relax you and promote sleep, plus the smaller dose makes sure you’re not super drowsy or out of it the next morning. I’m also someone who is very conscious about what kind of medication I put into my body but that’s what worked for me.

      Keep venting and coming back here for support, there is always someone willing to listen and respond to you.

      Day 40 man, it’s a grind but you got this! You’re more than halfway to the 2 month mark which is a great milestone to look forward to.

      -CAL

      3-3-19
      Day 238

      1. Thanks for replies Derek and Cal, nice knowing you’re not alone in this crap. I have zero plans starting back up and already have a tattoo in mind for the quit, little contract with my self you could say lol. I have an appointment with a doc to just get the once over and make sure everything is checking out ok and I’ll get back to you guys with results. Only been drinking water, hardly any caffeine in last 4 months, eating less food too to avoid the weight gain, and to keep that bloated feeling at bay. I have found that less carbs and CBD especially help a lot with the anxiety of you guys have never tried it. There’s no pot In it so it’s safe for the job, just cuts the anxiety in half. Looking forward to getting out of the depression. Talk soon guys

    3. See your Doc and discuss Zoloft. Small dose flails helped me with PTSD, anxiety, the heart palpating, and actually made me WANT to quit Copenhagen.

  17. I chewed for 35 years. Copenhagen. Started when I was about 15 when I played baseball. One day just said ok I’m done gonna quit now kind of like Forest Gump when he was a runner. I am on day 48 of quitting. Used the nicotine patches 21 mg for 21 days, then 14 mg for 14 days, then 7 mg for 7 days. Then stopped the patches about one week ago. You are spot on with all of your symptoms listed especially the dreams and the mouth sores and irritations. It has been tough but it will be worth it I guess.

    1. Congratulations on starting your quit, but Don’t GUESS that it will be worth it. IT IS worth it, i just completed my first year of being quit after 30 years of dipping and it most definitely IS worth it.Hang in there Scott.

    2. Hi Scott,
      I have the exact same story. 35 yrs and just said I’m done.
      Only day 3 here and I am miserable. You guys are helping me so much..just knowing I’m not hallucinating.

      1. I chewed Copenhagen for 45 years… started at 15…
        I quit 3 days ago using nicotine gum… I’ve never gone this long in 45 years without a chew… it’s insane that I can’t believe I’m actually finally quitting

      2. I am on day 10 of actually quitting nicotine. I quit a 32 year habit of Copenhagen in 2014. I have been using nicotine lozenges for 5 years. It’s nice to finally be truly free.

      3. Nick,
        32 years chewing and I quit cold turkey 271 days ago. You are going to have miserable days and feel strange for weeks. My advice is to exercise a lot, and keep yourself busy. When you feel bad, get up and move, go for a walk, do a project. This helped me a lot, and I was tired at the end of the day so I slept better. I feel great now, with just occasional moments of anxiety that go away within minutes. Stay strong, because it is worth it.

        WV_Quitter.

        1. Hi Alan
          Its day 5 and my primary symptoms are shakes, sweating, anxious. I have ZERO desire to put a chew in..just want these to pass. Thanks for the encouragement!

          1. Alan,
            Thanks for checking in on me! Yes – day 18 now!! Most of the initial symptoms are gone..sweats, shakes. I now find myself battling the oral fixation/boredom mental part. I’ve resorted to seeds and a couple fake smokey mountain dips here and there. (felt guilty about the fake stuff but hey..its just like gum, or any other non-nicotine.tobacco product).

        2. My name is Curt I’m 28 and have been dipping of and on since I was 8. I’m on day four of quitting cold turkey. Can anybody tell me how long the sleepless nights last? Or how long the heightened anxiety last? Thanks in advance

          1. Curt,
            I expect the sleepless nights to ease up in the next 5-10 days. You can help out by exercising and making yourself tired before bed. Anxiety can be a major pain for a long time. The worst of mine was over by about day 60, but I still have small bouts of anxiety once in a while and I am at day 315. It gets much easier. I chewed for 32 years, so I may have it a lot worse than you will. Hang in there, because quitting is worth it.

          2. Curt,
            Congrats on your quit I hope you are still with it. I’m on day 50 and only within the past week have my sleep habits returned to semi-normal. I dipped for 37 years and the anxiety and fog was almost intolerable. I resorted to seeing my doctor and got a script for Wellbutrin. I don’t like taking any medicine, but it was a huge relief taking away most of the anxiety. I started tapering off of it a few days ago. Grind through the suck, drink plenty of water, and get on KTC to post roll every day. The brotherhood and support here is amazing.

    3. After 45 years of chewing Copenhagen it looks like I have finally quit… I’m only on day 3 using nicotine gum… I’ve never gone a full day without Copenhagen so 3 days is like a miracle to me… I know from experience that I could never stop without the use of a nicotine substitute for a time.

  18. Hello all,

    We’re all here for one purpose, and that’s kicking this addictions ass! I’m currently on day 25 and let me tell you, the struggle has been real. Terrible anxiety, dizziness, mental fog, racing thoughts, you name it. I will NOT let this defeat me and that’s why I came here. To be with like-minded individuals. I want to let you all know, no matter what day you’re on, KEEP YOUR HEAD UP, YOU CAN PUSH THROUGH THIS. The shit we have to go through to beat this is much better than waking up one day with cancer, knowing you could’ve done something to prevent it.

    Hope you all have a wonderful weekend!

    1. Amen Derrick 120 ODAAT here just keep pushing it gets better. I think the biggest thing for me was patience, doing everything right and being frustrated you still feel like shit.. that’s normal be patient trust the process it will pass

    2. Derek thinking about quitting but I hear of this fog and dizziness a lot. When did it kick in for you? The day that you quit?

      1. Greg,

        Sorry for the late response! The fog settled in almost immediately. When I knew I couldn’t use chew as a crutch, it almost instantly affected me. There were some days that literally felt like I was running in autopilot. Days I cannot remember what I did. I want to compare it to depression. I chewed roughly a can a day, and when I got home from work, I would smoke cigars. Quit both cold turkey. I will say, it is only as difficult as you want to make it. You can either choose to be positive and kick this addictions ass, or you can let it control you, your thoughts, etc.

        Dizziness was instant as well. I don’t know why it happens. Occasionally I still suffer from it, and I want to attribute that to cravings. The first few weeks were extremely difficult, but once you get over that hump, it gets much easier.

        I didn’t go to any alternatives. No gum, no seeds. Just quit. I said to myself I wanted to change, and I stuck with it. Takes more willpower than imaginable, in fact I still can’t believe I’ve stuck with it, but watching those hours tick by, the days, the weeks. Seeing the positive results, the change in attitude, energy. Man, it’s so worth it.

        I hope you decide to take the leap, Greg. You owe it to yourself!

  19. My Name is Robert.I have chewed for 10 years.I stopped almost 2 weeks ago and have had a burning mouth,tongue and bottom lip.Is this normal

  20. Switched to Grinds Black Coffee flavor. Been 2 weeks now with no Redman. I’m 70ish and have been chewing since college. Tried quitting before but ate all the time and gained 25 pounds. The substitute seems to be working great. My only question is am I still at risk of lip/mouth cancer now that I quit ?

  21. Quit a week ago, using ZYN nicotine pouches to avoid the foggy feeling so I can function as a daddy to my 7 month old. Ive had a toothache (upper left molar) and some swelling that came from nowhere… is that something that happens when you take tobacco out of the picture?

    1. I started using Zyn to “taper” off “the real thing.” Now I am hooked on Zyn. Lord! I have had some HUGE brain fog days since I stopped 10 days ago. Careful with that stuff. Seems look good harm reduction but it will keep you hooked like real stuff. Hope the fog clears soon. It’s bad!

      1. What about ear pain and ear aches? I quit almost 80 days ago and started having ear aches about 30 days in. Still having them on and off now. My anxiety has been high but a lot of it is coming from my sinuses being out of wack and getting ear aches.

  22. I’m a month or so in and don’t have any interest or cravings at all. I burned my mouth on some sever hot sauce and couldn’t dip for about a week so I quit. But my tongue is still numb and some sores do appear to be moving around my mouth. The anxiety says mouth cancer but I’m working hard to push those thoughts out.

    1. Justin just stopped Copenhagen after 30 years on day 4 currently. First thing cold and sore throat
      I went to the doctor and he said you should be good as I recently went to the doctor and had lab work and CBC done
      He still checked my mouth throat neck and head for lumps
      Relieved some worry and concern

  23. Hello Sam, I tried quitting once before and got to day 99 with help of fake dip, but I found out that instead of helping, it was continuing with the physical reflex of having something stuffed between my lips, so the first time I came across a real dip tin, I got tempted for the real stuff and I caved. It lasted for 4 years until i decided to quit cold turkey and stayed that way ever since.
    Now, everyone is different and I am not saying that the fake dip will not help other people, it just did not work for me.
    Regarding your question on anxiety, that is a part of the quit that I have not completely mastered yet, but no I did not use any kind of drug for it, instead what I do is a couple of things to trick my brain into squashing those feelings before they get out of control.
    One of them is breathing, I know it sounds dumb, but taking a few deep breaths when you feel it coming, it helps a lot.
    Another technique is to get yourself a watch, not a digital one, but a regular watch. When you feel the anxiety hit, look at your watch immediately and look at the arms and start counting the seconds, one, two, three and so on, I know it sounds dumb too, but it works for me. I’ve noticed that the anxiety goes away faster these days than when I started doing it.
    Finally, exercise and eat right, i found out that the better food you eat and work out, helps with the rewiring of your brain, keeps your mind off the quit and hell, it also works with the lady of you life, if you know what I mean.

    Again Sam, these are the things that have worked for me, you may want to explore other things and then come back and tell us your experience.
    We are all different, but we also have two things in common, Nicotine addiction and the desire to get away from it forever.

    Stay Cool Bro.

    Day 332

  24. Yes I will pray for you sir. The Lord knows I’ve requested the same from my brothers. Getting hooked was easy, getting away from this addiction proves to be one of the toughest things in life. You are 41 days into your quit, you keep going.
    This link delineates the things that you should expect as you reach your 100 days.

    https://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/what-to-expect-when-you-quit-dipping/

    Come back and tell us your experiences, I know I have been in here almost everyday writing about my journey.
    Hang in there partner.

    Day 331

    1. Hey Sam, do you mean “going crazy” as high levels of anxiety? if it is, then that’s perfectly fine, we all go through those days, especially in the first 100 days. If you are well beyond 200 or 300 days and it is not Anxiety, then it would probably be safer to consult a professional. Hang in there.

      1. Thanks DDD, i quite taking dip from August 7 and it is now 41 days 🙁 some times i am having bad dreams 🙁 some times i feel fear that i am going crazy 🙁 pray for me that ill pass these its too tough 🙁

        1. SAM,

          I quit dipping about 3 weeks ago and I’m going through the same thing. My mind races, I always have negative thoughts that are difficult to shutdown. Sometimes I feel as though I am going crazy as well, but trust me, this is part of the withdrawal. It will pass eventually. Try to keep yourself occupied, eat right, and exercise. We got this, brother!

          1. DEREK ,

            Brother, Thanks.

            I am on my day 70 , and feeling much better than few days back.
            Yes , anxiety is still there. no more cravings .. Some time panic attack happens and it will take time to reduce its peak .. e;g like i saw mentally ill person and the whole day i start feeling that i am also going to be the same like him ..

            Quitting and withdrawal symptoms are tough.

  25. Dipped for 18 years been trying to quit off and on for a couple years now. Made it last time about 100 days and then started getting in my head that life without dip wasnt as good lol and lost the purpose of quitting. Trying again, I’m about 40 days in. Having all kinds of symptoms, dizziness/light headed fog, depression, fatigue, muscle twitches, bad dreams, waking up in the middle of the night and not getting back to sleep, anxiety through the roof. Reading all these comments had helped me though, keep tricking everybody.

    1. Hey Chad, you’re totally normal in what you’re experiencing. I have had each one of those symptoms and the anxiety for me was definitely the worst. I would get nervous to walk into a public place, in fear I had to talk to someone. Without dip your brain has to re wire itself. I’m glad your hear today I’m Day 87 and I can tell ya what my anxiety I would say is about 90% gone. Sometimes it still comes back a tiny bit but nothing like it was in the first 50 days. Stay strong man! Feel free to pm me I’m in the 2019 sept group.. bigdiesel90

    2. Hi there ,its same here ,i dipped for about 18 years and tried quitting for 8 months ,but some how got used to it again ,now i have taken a fresh start its 9 days of quitting and this time its damn serious at last just want to say that keep faith in yourself and keep calm .

  26. Hey Randy – It’s been really rough on me as well. But overall, it’s getting better and nothing is as bad as the beginning and some of the extreme sadness/depression I had around days 90-110. My dizziness was gone within the first 60 days or so I’d say. Have been in and out of fog and extreme fatigue for my whole quit – I would have periods of 1-2 weeks where I actually felt like my old self, energetic and clear minded and thought I was out of the woods! Not quite yet. At day 167, I’ve had the fog and seriously overwhelming fatigue for the past 3-4 days; it came back! I’m talking like I’ll sleep 10 hours and still be basically useless all day. Though I do feel like I’m on the verge of a breakthrough…I can actually see the light at the end of the tunnel. Cravings haven’t been a big deal for me either. I had started a quit in late October or early November 2018 and on day 86 I caved. I went back to dipping for about 30 days and realized just how much it made my situation and anxiety WORSE so I quickly quit again for the final time and now I’m on day 167. I’m still emotionally flat and sometimes feel like I could lie in bed and stare at my ceiling all day. Emotions and feelings are starting to come through every once in a while, enough to give me some motivation. Caving and going back isn’t an option for me at this point as I know it will only make situation worse so while I stay highly vigilant, that has not been a difficult part of my quit as of late. I know some people complain of cravings for quit some time…years in some cases. We’ll get there man, it’s different for everyone but even if it doesn’t feel like it I know you’re making progress.

    How is your diet and fitness level? I’ll admit I’m lazy with exercise, but I do try and get my steps in through tracking with Fitbit and also do stretching and meditation. My diet is now very healthy (though when it’s not i notice a big difference). I’ve also found that eating smaller meals and not stuffing myself helps greatly in curbing some symptoms that are similar to withdrawal such as dizziness, fatigue, heart palpitations, etc.

    Anything else you want to share or ask me let me know.

    -CAL

    Quit Date: 3-13-19

  27. How long does the fog last? I have had it since the moment I’ve quit and I am on day 131 today, it is awfu. Have barely seen any let up. Makes my life nearly impossible.

    1. It can take a while, but it WILL subside. Might not be perceptible day over day but there will come a time and you look back and realize you’ve had a good couple of weeks. Hang in there!

        1. Hey Randy,

          I’m not a doctor but yes that’s what I understand it to be based on my research during my quit. It seems to happen with any strong addiction whether it’s a hardcore drug, alcohol or nicotine. The brain’s reward system is being rewired and the dopamine receptors need to get used to the fact that they’re not being given a sweet dose of regular nicotine. Normally gratifying experiences like watching the sunrise/sunset, spending time with your family, having a good meal, watching a big game etc. will take time before they’re enjoyable again. I think you’ll feel emotionally flat for a while. For whatever reason, everyone is different. If my math is correct, hopefully you’re on day 152 by now; I’m on day 163 so we’re definitely in the same wheelhouse. If you’re like me, you feel like you should be “better” now but I’m sure you’re not. But will the next 150 days be easier than the first 150 days? Hell yes! Just remember, if you’re thinking of caving, a dip definitely won’t solve any of these problems. You’ll just end up having 2 problems instead of 1.

          Good luck and let me know if you have any specific questions about other symptoms, chances are I went through them or am going through them around the same time as you.

          – Cal

          Quit date: 3-13-19

          1. Yes cal we are very close together. It is good to hear a response from other people around the same amount of time as me. My quit has been terrible, not too many cravings but I have been in a terrible dizzy fog since day one of my quit and it has taken its toll on me for sure. Nothing feels real. You are spot on about not enjoying other stuff as well and feeling flat. How is your quit symptoms?

  28. Here’s my story. I’m an attractive woman, tall, thin athletic. Have a great job. I started chewing in Alaska when I was 25. I finally quit for a whole year at 49. Then there were rumors of mass layoffs at my job and I picked it up again and chewed the hell out of it for four months during a relapse. Im now two weeks dip free but have been using the gum. need to stop that. I have four pieces left. I am having jaw pain and its freaking me out. Also my tongue tingles. No sores anywhere I can see, Is this normal

    1. Hi molly ,this is normal ,the idea of quitting says it all ,its never late to stop .keep faith in yourself but stop using gum ,if u feel like doing it go for a deep breath or drink some water.

  29. Has anyone experienced bad aches and pains? getting lower back pain and sore everywhere out of nowhere.. im slowly losing my mind

    1. David, I have had aches and pains in hip bones , hip joint, shoulders, chest, legs, etc. I am on day 167, and most pains are going away. Still dealing with occasion tingling in my hands and feet, but the aches are mostly gone.

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