What To Expect When You Quit Dipping

What To Expect When You Quit DippingSo you want to quit. And you would like to know what it’s like. We’re not going to pull any punches around here, it’s tough. That’s why we’re all here.

Days 1 through 3 – Pure hell. You will walk in the fog. Nothing will seem real. Your brain is wondering where the hell its fix is and it is going to punish you until you come up with it. 72 hours, that’s all you need to get the nicotine out of your system. This is where you start to deal with the physical withdrawal associated with quitting dip. Drink lots of water. Read, post, read and post. Don’t take your anger out on your loved ones. We always tell everyone………Make this quit about YOU. If you quit for your wife, girlfriend, boyfriend, kids, mommy or daddy, you will resent them during this period. Quit for yourself and come in here to rant. Yell at us. Bitch at us. We can take it. We’ve been there.

Days 4 through 20 – Here comes the mind games. The nicotine is out of your system now. You will still have some physical things to deal with.

  • Cravings
  • Irritability
  • Insomnia
  • Fatigue
  • Inability to Concentrate
  • Headache
  • Sore throat
  • Constipation, gas, stomach pain
  • Dry mouth
  • Sore tongue and/or gums

Yep, you have this to look forward to. Your brain is rewiring itself. It isn’t used to being in an oxygen rich environment. Your body is responding in kind. Everything is a mind game now. All the cravings you have are actually due to triggers. Triggers are events where you are in a situtation you would normally dip in. Mowing the grass, playing poker online, playing golf, working on the car………you get the picture. Keep drinking water, use seeds, the fake stuff, whatever you need to keep the dip out of your mouth. Remember, oral fixation is part of our habit, something you will eventually need to break. For now though, use all the tools you have.

Days 20 – 50 – You’re winning. Life isn’t great, but you probably had a couple of nights where you actually got some sleep. You might notice you’re going to bed earlier than you normally do. Not staying up to get in that last dip. You may notice some sores in your mouth. You’re thinking, “great, I quit dipping and now I have cancer.” You almost certainly don’t. Your mouth is healing itself. Tiny ulcers you’ve had for a long time are healing. We recommend you visit your dentist around the 30 day mark. Don’t be a pansy, just do it. He or she will be very supportive and they can explain the sores much better than we can. Don’t let your guard down. Don’t go out drinking with the fellas or the girls. We also recommend that you don’t drink for at least the first 50 days. Drinking is a huge trigger event and it weakens your resolve.

Days 50 – 70 – Cruise control. Life is really good. You still think about it, but this is good stuff here. Some people may suffer anxiety attacks during or a little before this stage. Some doctors say we dipped to relieve anxiety anyway. Some people can push right through this, others need a little help. Talk to your doctor before you quit or immediately after you quit. They will know what to do. Some give Wellbutrin or Lexapro. Lots of people in the support community take or have taken these medicines and can help you with the affects. Don’t wait till you get to this stage of the game to talk to a doctor. You’ll cruise through this stage much easier if you know how to take care of the anxiety or at least know it’s coming.

Days 70 – 90 – Late term craves, the doldrums, the blahs, the blues. Some people end up feeling like they are right back at day 1. The fog, the haze, the craves. It can be a tough time. You need to let people in your group know this is happening. Time to circle the wagons to get through it. It usually only lasts a few days. Fight through this and make sure your order your HOF Knife or Coin. Here are a couple of articles about this time period which we refer to as “The Funk”

Days 90 – HOF – Houston, resume the countdown. Enjoy the hell out of these last 10 days. You will be celebrating with your group as you all enter the HOF. It is a great feeling and an accomplishment you should not take lightly. Do something special for yourself and your family. They put up with your sorry ass for the last 90 days and they deserve something too.

100+ Days – Stay vigilant. Use the tools you have, to continue beating back any cravings or urges. You will still experience dip dreams and longings, but you are fully qualified to beat them down. Continue to post roll with your group. Get into the newer groups and help somebody out. Pass it along. Live the dream.

Looking for info after 100 days? Check out What To Expect – 100 Days and Beyond

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  1. Hey all,

    I’ve been meaning to update for a while now. I saw a comment from a user on another thread asking if depression will ever go away and it motivated me to respond and help him out. I figured I would take part of that post here and provide you all an update and check it to see how you’re doing.

    Finally, I feel like myself again…actually a new and improved version!!

    I’m on Day 272. The good news is that the depression does fade away. I can tell you in my experience, man it was such a grind. Day after day, the depression was always there and it seemed like it would never go away. You hear guys talking about feeling better after 30 days, 100 days, 200 days…I was still grinding it out! I thought my energy would never come back. I couldn’t believe I was still tired all the time after 200 days of being quit! I did all the recommended stuff – more exercise, tons of sleep, meditation, exercise, vitamins, etc. In the end, I truly believe the thing that helped most was time. I tracked everything I did as well – my mood, my depression, anxiety, eating habits, etc. I can safely say that around Days 235-240 is when I finally started to turn a corner. Depression is now completely gone, energy is back big time. I’m like a whole new person – all it took was time. I’m sure all the “best practice” stuff I did helped, and they’re all good habits anyway, but time was the biggest healer in my opinion (that’s the whole rewiring and dopamine reset that you referred to).

    I can also say that I’m better than I ever remember myself being before dip. I’m hopeful that since it’s been over a month of feeling this way that I’m over the hump, but I’m still vigilant that issues could pop up. Some things just take time and there are guys out there who will go through this stuff for a year or maybe more.

    Everything is better – I can actually focus on work and getting things done (I’m not in a constant state of fog/zoning out on what I need to do), I don’t need 10+ hours of sleep every night plus a nap during the day, less stress/anxiety, 0 depression, I have energy, motivation for life and the list goes on.

    Part of me feels like guys should start at 300 days (or even a year) and count backward. If you feel better before then, great. We talk a lot about the 100 day mark as being a big milestone and it most certainly is, but I personally feel there’s a lot that you’ll need to grind through after that before you get back to normal. It’s also a matter of expectations – if we look to 100 days as when we should be “quit”, you’ll start to feel disappointed when you hit 100 days and still feel like shit. As the days linger, you may start to question it: “shouldn’t I feel better by now? Maybe I’ll never feel better? Maybe it’s different for me and I’m just not capable of healing?”

    If you go into your quit thinking it takes 300 days to heal (yes it’s a lot more daunting than 100 days but I think it’s a more realistic expectation) then you won’t be disappointed when you still feel like shit after 100 days. Hell, most of the other stuff I read online talked more about 30 days and you’ll be back to normal! I also think from the conversations of the more active guys on this thread, it’s taken to around this time to start feeling significant changes. Maybe we could get an updated timeline or post on the site to reflect some of these thoughts and I could help with the write up. I know this is just me speaking from experience, but did your depression really go away at 100 days? Anxiety? Energy come back? etc. 100 days is just a guideline and I get that, but I think some additional info could be helpful to new quitters out there or those currently in the trenches.

    That’s my rant for the day gents!

    Shiva, DDD, Carey, JP, JEFFJ how are all you guys doing?

    -CAL

    • CAL, that was a great Post. You know, everyone is different in the way you recover from abusing this shit. I for one, was happy to get to the 100 day mark and as you said, it IS a big milestone, especially for folks like me that dipped a can-can and a half for almost 30 years. But, did my symptoms suddenly stop at the 100 day mark? No. I had so many ups and downs up to and after, that 100 day mark. I want to say for me, it was well into the 200’s before I started feeling “normal” again (whatever the hell Normal is). I guess that’s when the ups were more than the downs.
      I think this site tells you to “shoot” for 100 days, but the battle isn’t over from there. I still hung around here for a while (still do, 5 years later). It DOES help, to help others who are in their downs. I had people do that for me and I try to pay it forward here.
      I’m pretty well these days, I do not fantasize about nicotine anymore. I can hang around with dippers and it has zero affect on me these days. In fact, I often wonder why such a gross habit had so much control over my life. I didn’t see it back then, but I do notice how gross this shit is now. The fact of the matter is, like you are starting to see, I am just a better “me” without that stuff.
      You keep on keeping on, refreshing to see another quitter throwing down some knowledge out here👍
      -JP
      07-15-14

    • Hey Cal, great to hear you are feeling much better. You are 100% correct, the struggle doesn’t end after 100 days, it is more like a gradual separation of symptoms and a slow journey into a different way of life. This is strange, because you are actually going back into the life you once had before the nicotine. For years tobacco is the center of the life of an addict, since it doesn’t kill us, we continue doing it and everything revolves around it. They say that tobacco residues are completely gone from the body after a few days, but the actual addiction in the mind is what we struggle the most. That might be true, but after gone through it like yourself and all others in here, I think there are some real physical damage that gets done. Anxiety, depression, blood pressure, and who knows what else are some of the results the body expresses while it heals itself. Keep getting better.

    • Hey Cal,

      It’s good to hear that you are doing better! I’ve been following most of you since my quit 248 days ago. You all have helped me more than I can express on here. I too made a turn for the better at day 213 – 240. At 241 the anxiety/depression was back, although it was mild, it was very bothersome having gone for weeks feeling so good. Now on day 248 I’m doing much better again.

      What I can take from my experience so far is that, of all the many symptoms I’ve battled in the last 248 days (and there have been many) is that as slow as it has been most all symptoms are now gone. The only two mentioned above are occasional at best, and less intense.

      I now have my sights set on day 365. I just know that it gets better with time as you mentioned Cal. Thanks Jayp, Cal, Shiva, jeffj, DDD, and many others who’ve made this fucked up journey more bearable just by being here. I’m happy to be a part of this quit with you all today!

      – Carey-
      Apr. 3, 2019

    • Cal and the rest of you bad ass quitters!

      First. Happy holidays to all of you.

      Take a look at what all of you have done this year… you accomplished a goal that was as hard as it gets: I read many post over this year and almost all of you kicked the nic bitches ass. I say congratulations on your battles

      New quitters. You have an enormous amount of veteran help here to help… once you jump in our playground. We will help you as much as we can

      Jeffj
      8-14-14

  2. 414 Days
    Mondays are rough, hope everyone is doing good. I, on the other hand, not sure what is going on. I had a very real dream of me dipping. I could taste it, i could feel it, i would spit just like in the days of dipping. I could feel the buzz and the ocassional nausea associated with it. I woke up feeling guilty and bad, and then I felt better after realizing it was just a dream. I think the dream came about because I was around smokers and the smell of tobacco stuck in my mind until i went to bed. In any case, I did not dip and I quit another day with you all.

    • DDD, I still have them on occasion myself. The act of doing it, then awake, relieved it was just a dream.
      You’d think, over 5 years removed, they’d be gone, no such luck.
      I actually welcome them now, it only further supports my desire to stay quit.
      Hope everything else is well.
      Take Care!
      -JP
      07-15-14

      • Thanks JayP, I thought I was the only one having these dreams. But like you said,”You welcome them now” to reinforce your quit. I think I will do the same, instead of feeling shame, I can use them to solidify my tenacity. Glad I came in here and got once again, what I needed from you guys.
        You All take care.
        DDD

  3. Day 400
    Made it to the 4th floor.
    Hope everyone is doing ok.
    DDD

    • I quit 11/17/19 after 35 years. A few cravings but i feel so much better i am never going back. My heartburn is gone and my sinuses are clearing up. I am with ya in spirit boys.

    • Good job DDD. Have a good thanksgiving boys!
      Jeffj
      8-14-14
      Jayp. I am afraid to watch the game this weekend.

      • DDD, welcome to the 4th! You keep climbing them stairs!
        Happy Thanksgiving all you bad asses dropping that nasty habit!
        And Jeff, I’m always cautiously optimistic for The Game
        This year, Ohio gets the benefit of possibly losing AND still playing for a B10 Championship (thank Ronnie Bell at Penn State).
        But Michigan has nothing to lose and all to gain, we’ll see.
        Take care all!
        -JP
        07-15-14

    • Day 10 .
      I don’t think I miss the nicotine, I miss the ritual .
      Going to bed early and getting a full night’s sleep .
      Jake’s pure mint chew is eventually going to have to go , but for now it gives my hands something to reach for after meals

  4. Day 388

    Ok guys I am not going to sugar coat it. Yesterday I went inside the convenience store in the middle of nowhere. In my mind I was thinking, no one is watching me, I could just buy that tin can and enjoy a big fat one. I got tempted big time. It is been a year and usually I don’t think about it anymore, but last night’s crave came out of the blue and it tboned my quit big time. I don’t know how I dragged my carcass out of there without buying that can. Instead I bought a six pack of beer and went home. I enjoyed a few, had dinner and all, while I was watching TV, I had another monster Crave. I really thought about going to the store again. I am not sure if it is the cold weather that is triggering these late craves since it was a year ago that I took my last dip and I remember it was a cold daY.
    Anyway, I am glad I did not cave and I post again that I will not dip another day with you all.

    10-22-2018

    • Day 246

      DDD, hope you stayed strong bro. It’s just a bump on the road. I’m not quite at your level yet but I imagine you got to that comfortable place where you’ve been quit for so long that you forgot how terrible those early days were. Take a few minutes to really think about it – the depression, anxiety, fog , fatigue and all the other awful symptoms. Read back through your old posts if you have to. You grinded through everything and now you may be tempted to go back because you’re finally feeling good again. Don’t do it man, the only thing that will happen is you’ll start dipping again then at some point you’ll be back on here trying to quit and you’ll be starting from Day 0. You’ll have to go through absolute hell again and it will be even harder the next time around. No worries of having to go through that shit again if you stay quit!

      We are here for your support, check back in when you get a chance.

      -CAL
      3-13-19

      • Thanks Cal
        You are absolutely right, It is the boredom of the quit. I even read that in one these posts, it just caught me off guard.
        Anyway, happy to report that there was no cravings yesterday, as a matter of fact I was at a gathering with friends and family and I just blurted out it’s been 388 days since I quit, a year and a month almost. Dudes congratulated me, the way they carried on you would think I’d graduated from school or something.
        Anyway, guess they were happy for me.
        The same way we are of each other in here, everyday we stay off the nicotine is a victory, Enjoy it people!!
        I quit with you all today.
        Day 389

  5. Day 387
    Today we got our first freeze, traffic is a mess, our illustrious state and city governments do not have winter budgets like other states, so a little freeze grinds our cities to a halt. Anyway, good to have a break from the hellacious summers down here in the south.
    Just wanted to say, hello to everyone and make sure you all are still quit, for those of you just starting, keep going, it does get better. Jayp called me a Pro already, feels kind of good really. A year and 22 days. Not too bad, but now looking forward to the 400 day mark.
    Shiva, how are you liking your motorcycle? JeffJ, have you finished working on your classic car? Cal, you said you had a new addition to the family, how’s that going? Hope to hear good news everyone.
    Take care.

    • DDD. It’s 75 and clear here, went golfing today ( sorry jayp) but this is the best time of the year. Perfect t weather

      I will never finish my Laguna s-3. It’s a labor of love. It’s ready for paint so time to save up.

      Next week I go to beautiful Cincinnati. Cold. Weather for a few days. The get back to southern Cali

      You boys take care and keep the fight going

      Shiva. Mail call

      To my Marine brothers sunday was the Marine Corp b day. Semper fi to my Marine brothers

      Jeffj
      8-14-14

      • 19 degrees an about 9 inches of snow in Michigan….so enjoy that 70 degree weather Jeff. Cincinnati shouldn’t be bad, I hear they still get a lot of the gulf stream in that city. Safe travels.
        Good seeing both you and DDD out here….by the way, DDD, you made it back, and are now over a year quit …I’d definitely put you in veteran status. Keep up the good work👍
        -JP
        07-15-14

        • Semper fi Jeff – 259 days and going strong.. Have a nice time in Cincinnati.. This was the first ever city I landed in US :).
          My current funk has ended (yay…. 😁) and again in a period of blissful calmness..
          DDD – My motorcycle is awesome.. still in running-in period and I am not exceeding 100 KMPH (~60 mph).. Waiting to cross the running-in period to unleash the beast 🙂

          Guys – the next 3 months are the most amazing period in my city… Days at 80-85 and nights at 60-65.. (sorry JAYP :D).. My city (Chennai) is in the southern part of the country and is around ~900 miles from equator in a straight line (by comparison LA is around ~2300 miles from equator in a straight line )… so you guys know how excited I am getting for winter.. some of us pay hands and legs to go to Northern India (Himalayas) to see snowfall :)..

          CAL – Hope you are doing good.. keep us posted…

          Have a great time, everyone.. holiday spirits are at an all time high.. so watch out..

          • Now I have Shiva rubbing it in lol…I’m literally looking out the back window of my house at a foot of snow on the table outside. You guys might want to “see” the snow…but I bet you wouldn’t want to live in it.
            900 miles from the equator? Closest I’ve came to the equator is 1,255 miles, visiting Jamaica. I bet it gets HOT there!
            Be good Shiva and also careful on your 2-wheeler👍
            -JP
            07-15-14

          • Lol JayP.. true I had my share of snow when I lived in NJ.. :).. it gets miserably humid in the summer months here.. and hot as well… my city lies on a thermal equator.. a place having the highest annual mean temperature along the longitude.. meaning not much seasonal variation

          • Shiva

            Yes. Waited all year for this time of year . I am in riverside California, we usually get just a few months of heat. Now it’s awesome

            You kicked butt shiva. Your one year will be here soon. Next time in calif. let me know. We should meet for a coffee.

            I go back to China in March which is nice that time( Shenzhen)

            We should trade emails. If anyone wants to see my progression on my classic car

            Let me know
            Mine is jrj430@yahoo.com

            Jeffj
            8-14-14

          • Mine is
            Brewbrewha4me@aol.com
            I love the classics. It may not be to a lot of you, but I own an 87 Mustang GT myself. Will be tearing out the 32 year old carpet this winter, replacing the heater core and an alternator upgrade too. Still trying to get this dam deck railing finished. This foot of snow is supposed to melt next week, it’ll be a balmy 40 degrees 😂
            Take care!!
            -JP
            07-15-14

          • Absolutely Jeff… I ‘ll send a note next time I am travelling to LA and we should catch up.. Has a work need around end of Jan/ early Feb but has to go through budget approvals and whatnot.. hope it comes through..
            Mine is shiva.nf@gmail.com..
            ROFL JayP… may be 40 Centigrade :)..

            DDD – Hope your late season funk is under control.

            Just sharing something – My Dad is close to 4 years completion come this Dec 31st. He was ~10 cigarettes a day smoker and 3-4 dips a day. He is 74 and was a nicotine addict since he was 18.
            He is now completely out of it now.. He just wonders why on earth he was smoking all these years :).. BTW, except my wife no one in my family knew I was an addict :(…

          • Hey guys, glad everyone is in here chatting away, and yes my late cravings are under control. Today I am on day 390, wow, 10 more days to the fourth floor.
            I do not have an antique car, but I do own a 25 year old GMC pickup. Everything is still original, I added some aggressive mudding tires and new rims, but other than that it is still as I bought it brand new, off the delivery truck, still had the factory plastics on the seats.
            I drove that truck all over the land until i got to the oceans and back. Anyway my email is osflors@gmail.com in case you guys want to drop a line sometime. Take care and enjoy the weekend.
            DDD

  6. Today marks 6 weeks without a dip, I’m 23 years old and have dipped for a little over 7 years, I’ve been reading some of the comments and they have helped. I don’t have the craving for a dip, it’s just the anxiety/depression that’s the hard part. I have my good days and my bad days. But when there bad, there pretty bad. Any suggestions?

    • Hi Brick, I was the same. I’m just past 7 months now. No cravings, just symptoms, mostly anxiety/depression just like you. There were other symptoms, but the most bothersome were the two mentioned. It does get better, and I know that is easier said than done. When I had anxiety/depression I thought it would never go away, but it will. It will come in waives, and sooner or later the good days will far outweigh the bad. Hang in there and let it take it’s course. Try exercising, it really helped me. Good luck.

  7. Hey Tim, Welcome.
    It ain’t easy, but it’s not impossible. Just stick with it and take it one day at a time. There is life without Dip.
    I am on day 382, but i started just like you and all the others in here.
    Hang in there and tell us about your journey.

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