What To Expect When You Quit Dipping

What To Expect When You Quit DippingSo you want to quit. And you would like to know what it’s like. We’re not going to pull any punches around here, it’s tough. That’s why we’re all here.

Days 1 through 3 – Pure hell. You will walk in the fog. Nothing will seem real. Your brain is wondering where the hell its fix is and it is going to punish you until you come up with it. 72 hours, that’s all you need to get the nicotine out of your system. This is where you start to deal with the physical withdrawal associated with quitting dip. Drink lots of water. Read, post, read and post. Don’t take your anger out on your loved ones. We always tell everyone………Make this quit about YOU. If you quit for your wife, girlfriend, boyfriend, kids, mommy or daddy, you will resent them during this period. Quit for yourself and come in here to rant. Yell at us. Bitch at us. We can take it. We’ve been there.

Days 4 through 20 – Here comes the mind games. The nicotine is out of your system now. You will still have some physical things to deal with.

  • Cravings
  • Irritability
  • Insomnia
  • Fatigue
  • Inability to Concentrate
  • Headache
  • Sore throat
  • Constipation, gas, stomach pain
  • Dry mouth
  • Sore tongue and/or gums

Yep, you have this to look forward to. Your brain is rewiring itself. It isn’t used to being in an oxygen rich environment. Your body is responding in kind. Everything is a mind game now. All the cravings you have are actually due to triggers. Triggers are events where you are in a situtation you would normally dip in. Mowing the grass, playing poker online, playing golf, working on the car………you get the picture. Keep drinking water, use seeds, the fake stuff, whatever you need to keep the dip out of your mouth. Remember, oral fixation is part of our habit, something you will eventually need to break. For now though, use all the tools you have.

Days 20 – 50 – You’re winning. Life isn’t great, but you probably had a couple of nights where you actually got some sleep. You might notice you’re going to bed earlier than you normally do. Not staying up to get in that last dip. You may notice some sores in your mouth. You’re thinking, “great, I quit dipping and now I have cancer.” You almost certainly don’t. Your mouth is healing itself. Tiny ulcers you’ve had for a long time are healing. We recommend you visit your dentist around the 30 day mark. Don’t be a pansy, just do it. He or she will be very supportive and they can explain the sores much better than we can. Don’t let your guard down. Don’t go out drinking with the fellas or the girls. We also recommend that you don’t drink for at least the first 50 days. Drinking is a huge trigger event and it weakens your resolve.

Days 50 – 70 – Cruise control. Life is really good. You still think about it, but this is good stuff here. Some people may suffer anxiety attacks during or a little before this stage. Some doctors say we dipped to relieve anxiety anyway. Some people can push right through this, others need a little help. Talk to your doctor before you quit or immediately after you quit. They will know what to do. Some give Wellbutrin or Lexapro. Lots of people in the support community take or have taken these medicines and can help you with the affects. Don’t wait till you get to this stage of the game to talk to a doctor. You’ll cruise through this stage much easier if you know how to take care of the anxiety or at least know it’s coming.

Days 70 – 90 – Late term craves, the doldrums, the blahs, the blues. Some people end up feeling like they are right back at day 1. The fog, the haze, the craves. It can be a tough time. You need to let people in your group know this is happening. Time to circle the wagons to get through it. It usually only lasts a few days. Fight through this and make sure your order your HOF Knife or Coin. Here are a couple of articles about this time period which we refer to as “The Funk”

Days 90 – HOF – Houston, resume the countdown. Enjoy the hell out of these last 10 days. You will be celebrating with your group as you all enter the HOF. It is a great feeling and an accomplishment you should not take lightly. Do something special for yourself and your family. They put up with your sorry ass for the last 90 days and they deserve something too.

100+ Days – Stay vigilant. Use the tools you have, to continue beating back any cravings or urges. You will still experience dip dreams and longings, but you are fully qualified to beat them down. Continue to post roll with your group. Get into the newer groups and help somebody out. Pass it along. Live the dream.

Looking for info after 100 days? Check out What To Expect – 100 Days and Beyond

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  1. Hi all
    I am very happy to announce that it’s been 24 days since the last tobacco pouch I consumed. It’s been very tough but I think I have come to a somewhat normal phase again I do not get cravings I feel a bit emotional upset but it’s worth it. I have been visiting a dentist for my bone loss treatment. It’s going on well so far .
    Thanks for the emotional support and motivation

  2. Congrats on your success so far. I hope you are still sticking with it! Your withdrawal symptoms should be getting easier at this point. You need to tell your wife! It’s good to have someone for encouragement. I have been tobacco free for almost 3 months now. I had been dipping for 10 years. Make sure you reward yourself occasionally each week! Best of luck!

  3. One month today!
    I’m 42 and started then I was 15. Never once did I ever try to quit. I was completely terrified that it would be the worst feeling ever. I would have daggers coming out of my gums and I would want to rip out my teeth. That has not been the case though. I took the long slow journey until the end.

    I got to the point where a chew just plain hurt my mouth. That was nearly a year ago. I introduce Zyn along with dip, and after about 2 months of going back and forth, I went to only Zyn. After a while I started experiencing the same thing with dip, my mouth, my gums, my teeth would hurt.

    Next up I moved over to the nicotine throat lozenges. They work but I started eating them last letter candy, and they aren’t cheap at 12 bucks a tube. I found myself going though one of those a day. Quickly became a more and more expensive habbit. It took a little time to finally stop but one day I did and haven’t had any in a month.

    I think the fact that if I were to “cheat” it would be those throat lozenges and since they aren’t cheap has helped me.

    One good and one bad as a result of the last month. Bad, I’ve put on about 11 pounds even though I do a lot of running and hiking. Good, my resting heartbeat as dropped 15 beats per minute in one month. Haven’t checked my blood pressure but I assume big changes there to.

    To anyone to read this. Thanks for listening.

  4. So glad I found this place! I am at 48 hours exactly right now after chewing 2-3 cans a week for 6 years. Finally just got sick of it and decided I quit. No matter what will I touch the stuff again, but it’s good to know the source of where all this hell is coming from. I haven’t gone this long without chew in 6 years. Yesterday was pure hell. I don’t think I have ever got so angry or agitated in my life. And I didn’t even know why. I had to leave the house around midnight and go drive around so I wouldn’t take it out on my wife. I think she’s kind be of hurt and confused. I didn’t tell her I was quitting because I’ve told her that and failed before and I wanted to wait until I could look her in the eyes and tell her I did it. I don’t want to disappoint her again. But she doesn’t know where this anger and hostility are coming from. The brain fog, oh good the fog. This has been so hard, I’m expecting it to get worse but don’t know how I can handle it if it does

  5. Well I have not had a dip in 9 days. I had been using the stuff for 35 years. I refuse to say I quit because I never decided to start. I just decided to not use copenhagan anymore. The first three days were hell…. I really should have stayed away from people. Things are getting better now I just salivate a lot! And find myself reaching in my pocket for something that is not there. I still want one bad but I am NOT going back. I have been through too much to stop now. Keep up the fight and never let the bastard win!

    Best of luck to all!

    Joe

  6. Timothy Williams

    I was actually able to quit for 6 months. The cashier in the store at knew that I was trying to quit so whenever I walked in she knew what I wanted. She would see me and just say no and point to the door and I would say thanks and leave.

    Suddenly, 4 months into quitting, my favorite flavor came back out; Copenhagen Black. I was able to ignore it for about the two months. Finally, I said that I will just give it a little taste. Now I’ve been dipping again for over 9 months. I finally said I will quit again, which is why I’m back.

    I will finish my last can of Copenhagen today and the fight is on again. I’m in the Army but no longer an infantryman so I’m probably one of about 4 dippers here compared to the infantry where most people dipped. Not being around other dippers and being around people who are disgusted by dip spit would probably make quitting a little easier.

  7. Hey everyone. Today is my at 4 o’clock est I stopped dipping. I’ve been dipping since I was 13 and I’m 30 now. I tried to go out for the police department where i live and my BP was elevated that they would not allow me to finish my testing and cut me. Go along with getting better physically fit I’m quitting dipping as well. So I guess let’s start this wild ride.

  8. Hi .
    I have been using smokeless tobacco for 11 years . I have bad back ache muscle spasms today my doctor told me it is because of the tobacco I eat he said u are lucky enough that not much of a diamage has been done . I am visiting this forum since a year planning to quit was unsuccessful every time . My wife my kids and my parents never knew that I was into this habit I let them all know today and hence forth I won’t take a dip . Please wish me luck and support me in this fight .

    • Douglas Hutchens

      Vinayak – you came to the right place. lots of support here. I have only quit recently and it sucks, but i know others are here to support me in the life challenge.

  9. Well after picking up the habit on my first deployment 3 years ago, I’ve gonr through about a log a week. I just finished my second deployment and decided it was a good time to quit. I’m on day 5 now. Wish me luck!

  10. Somewhere around midnight will make a week. I have been crying a lot. I was watching the hunger games and I cried when katniss volunteered as tribute to replace her sister. I’ve teared up at several other things. I have combatted the tiredness when need be with caffeine but man I’m all sorts of emotional. Day 3 I got a flat tire at the gas station and the world was taunting me.

  11. I’m on day 22. I was 17 when I kinda started dipping. I am 39 now. I was in the military and I would say I dipped 1-2 cans a week for a cool 23 years. I quit on my birthday May 18, 2018, but I caved when my dad got sick and I was stressed. When I first quit my mouth was torn up bad. I had white dead tissue (like what it looks like after an ulcer has started to heal and the dead skin is falling off). Scared the shit outta me. Well I threw away the damn can right then and there and accidentally read a story about the big C and holy crap scared me even more. I swore I wanted to see my two year old grow up because it’s not his fault daddy was dumb at 17 and took his first dip. It’s also not my wife’s fault daddy never quit long before. They don’t deserve and addiction ridden fool in their lives. So again I’m on day 22. The ulcers started to heal and I read another story. Scared the living death outta me again. I started using peroxide mouthwash and brushing harder. Yeah so don’t do that. I actually got rid of the whole first layer of skin on my bottom gums on both sides. Yeah, no bueno. Dentist said she didn’t think it was anything, but that I ulcerated it real bad. It’s been a pain and the ulcers are still worrying me daily. My anxiety is beyond belief some days and better others. Everytime I get a sore throat or congestion I think OMG I’ve got it! I just keep praying to God for strength. I see the dentist for an updated checkup tomorrow. I will never put that shit in my mouth again. No, really this time. My family is worth more to me than that damn can.

  12. First day of quitting today after 18 years of dipping… I been visiting this forum from the past few weeks and I am looking forward to a rollercoaster ride for the next few days, but I know it’s still worth it. Got an 8-month old daughter at home and I don’t want her to ever see me with a wad under my lips again. Posted my roll in the morning and flushed all the leftover quid down the loo. Feeling proud of myself for being able to make this decision! Please wish me luck!!!

  13. I’m 26, a can of Copenhagen wintergreen everyday for 8 years. 3/24/18 I went in to grab a can. They were out. That was the start of the end. I decided that I was not going to use gum, seeds, or fake dip to help me stop. I don’t want to just replace a addiction. Even if one isn’t going to kill me. My dad quit about 2 months before me after 42 year of 1-2 cans a day. He chews gum like crazy and it gets on my last nerve. Which is why I chose not to use gum. I quit because of him. Yesterday was 3 months without anything. I just needed a little push and my dad gave me a big shove to make sure. I wish I would have found this site 3 months ago. Thanks for everyone who has posted. Reading everything makes me feel even better. Thanks again, Cory

  14. Don (again)…
    Day 27 and feeling better but urges continue. Learning to mow lawn, play golf or even watch a movie w/o a dip has been the hardest part. It is a daily grind but proud as by far the longest I have ever quit (in 40 years of dipping)

  15. I found this site in December of 2017. I’d been dipping for about 20 years. I started as an 18-year-old U.S. Marine. We weren’t allowed to smoke at night (snipers), around any ammo (Ka-boom!) or while in formation (because, well, we’re Marines). But chew?!?! Hell, chewing was practically encouraged. Anyway, my flavor/brand of choice was Grizz Wintergreen. I can still smell it as I type this. My daughter (now going into 7th grade) started getting older and learning about tobacco in school. One day she asked my why “I love Grizzly so much.” I didn’t have a great answer, and she asked me to stop. Every year she and I jump into Lake Minnetonka on Jan. 1 (yes, it’s frozen lol). Each year I dedicate my dive to one goal. In 2018, I dedicated my dive to quitting chewing tobacco. I was sick of spending the money, running my finger along the can’s edge to get the last possible strands of chew into my mouth and having spit bottles spill on my carpet and in my car. I was sick of of my gums bleeding every morning. Anyway, it’s been 171 days, and I’m still having intense cravings (like right now). Still, I made a decision and a commitment. I’m proud of myself, and I’m thankful for the folks on this site who encouraged/supported me without even knowing it through their posts. Keep at it! I know it’s a common cliche in this thread, but if I can do it so can you. Thanks for listening.

    • Congrats on 171 days free you SHOULD be proud! Also, a big thank you for your service.
      Those cravings should be getting less and less by now…if not, they will be. Mine seemed to be less and less around the 200 day mark. Of course it’s different for everyone.
      I do recall, being out for a 3 mile run around the 200 day mark…when I passed a crushed Skoal Wintergreen can (my brand), laying in the road. I remember the smell of it, immediately came to me and my mouth watering, lol! But, I just kept on running, leaving it behind me, like I did the habit, 200 days before. Fast forward to today, 25 days before my 4 year anniversary…life is good…even BETTER, without that shit in my lip. You keep plugging away, you’re on the path of freedom!
      -JayP

    • Congratulations Jay. I know EXACTLY how you feel. I’d been dipping for 25 years and have a daughter about the age of yours that asked me why I did something that I knew was bad for me. I decided to quit 136 days ago and it was pure hell in the beginning. My symptoms were so bad the first week that I thought something else must be wrong me and seriously considered going to the doctor. Things got better after that, but I still have days like today that are particularly stressful and make my cravings come right back like its day two. I fight the urges back as they come, but its not fun. Not sure how I’ll make it through hunting season this fall without it, but maybe it will get a little easier by then. Best of luck to you going forward. Thank you for service – it is respected and appreciated!

  16. Today I celebrate 30 days dip free. I declare myself officially quit after +25 years of this habit. Thanks to feedback on this site I was able to craft a plan and quit. My strategy was quite simple…. I purchased a ticket to Belize ($225 from Houston), rented hotel ($75 day) and made a commitment that once I landed in Belize I wouldn’t have another dip in my life. I blew through half a can on the flight. Why did this work? 1- There is no access to dip in Belize even if you wanted to give up 2- Your mind is elsewhere throughout the day one to three to reduce the impact of “hell phase”. Do the math… $525 = 5 days in Belize which is the equivalency of 3 months of a can a day. Good Value!

  17. Day 6 after 40 years of dip; feeling all the symptoms but battling. Glad i found this site and appreciate knowing I am not alone. To all on this journey… stay strong as us newbies need your strenght !!
    Don

  18. I’m 25 and have chewed for 11 years. I’m chew free for 2 weeks now. I got through the fog, the headaches, and the twitching when I would try to go to bed. I am now struggling, which has been by far the hardest, with the mental game of quitting. My mind has made so many connections with the nicotine and essentially grown up with it that everything is a trigger, from taking a shower (where we’d throw a fatty in after football practice) to eating a decent meal. I’ve bought 3 cans in the past 2 weeks but have yet to open one. I think just buying the can in my mind is a sense of release. Does the mental aspect ever get better? Or am I going to live every single day wanting a chew and battling to not throw one in?

  19. So decided to quit dipping and using candy to
    Try and replace it. Does anyone have tips. I have been dipping for around 12 years. And a can a day

    • I must be a freak. Ive been dipping for 6 years, quit cold turkey around 1 month ago.

      the 3 days were hell, yes. first week was shitty. Second week things got better day by day, and by week 3 I was feeling about 90 percent better, aside from occasional, WEAK cravings that seem to be getting less and less frequent.

      Idk, theres no way i see myself relapsing or entering some funk in several months…

      • Nahhh, you’re not a freak, just someone who hasn’t spent a large part of their life abusing. I’d say if you were on that habit for almost 30 years, like I did…and I guarantee you, it will be longer that 3 weeks before you’re at 90% better and having only “WEAK” cravings.
        In my experience, it all depends how long you’ve abused dip, that determines the hell you endure. 6 years? I was getting my drivers license at 6 years into my habit…had I quit then, maybe I wouldn’t had gone through the hell I did after almost 30 years abusing that shit.
        You should be fine only 6 years dipping…I don’t see this being a tough task for you at all. Consider yourself lucky you decided to only.abuse for 6 years.
        I do applaud you making the choice to be free!
        -JP

  20. 7 days clean. It feels like I quit yesterday.

    • Friend. Alan Carr's Book!!

      I dipped for years m8 and just stopped last december after reading alan carr’s book. Feels amazing. Only gets better from there man congrats its so easy once you just put it out of your life.

  21. After 12 years of sipping, I finally quit and was clean for 5 years and thought I could become a social dipper, guys weekends, or a round of golf. I tried a pouch and it was actually gross, made me dizzy was thankful I quit. How did I ever dip this stuff. Bad news, nicotine and habits don’t go away, tried it again and the slope is a slippery one. Casual dip here or there and now it’s been 8 months of same old stuff 2-4 cans per week. My wife and I talked about it and I came clean to her. Obviously she wasn’t happy but she’s right. Now I’m 48 hours clean and know I can do it again. This time
    Just don’t think you can ever be social with it. The quitting toad sucks but I know how much better I felt clean and look forward to getting there.

  22. PAUL – Quit dipping 3 weeks ago today after 15 years. Definitely agree that the trigger events are the hardest to get through right now. I had a tough morning with work and immediately wanted to dip! Coming on here to help get me through this. Thanks everyone..

  23. Greetings gentleman, I am Mike Price and am inprocess of quitting, today is day 4. I am not a long time user got roughly 10yrs at 1 can/day, live alone with 2 kids grown and on their own and a wife that left 10yrs ago.

    I luv dip and follow a precise daily routine as follows… I always look forward to my morning taste of coffee so every day I gather a fresh cup, my mobile and home phones, my laptop PC, spit-tune and skoal tin. From here head to shitter for my morning relief and daily organization. Now seated with one process started, have couple of swallows of warm coffee to wake the palette and follow with a perfect dip-pinch for lower front lip, nicely packed and that first swirl of sweet, tastey juice into spittune I check phone messages, awnser emails, look into calendar appointments, daily activities and check day’s weather forcast.

    Now relieved, organized and informed I have breakfast second coffee and new day’s working pinch (a little larger than 1st as it primes for longer time in the day).

    I started dip in college. School was 4hrs from home and I traveled with local classmate. This buddy had a 1978 Pontiac Phenox and drove like a retard. He also chewed.

    On one trip from home to school we were travelling together, Paul was behind the wheel passing a line of cars up a local ski hill having a fresh layer of freezing rain applied the previous night. I was scared shit-less, cursing his wheeling and he opens tin of mint Skoal to put in pinch. He didn’t like seeing me anxious so he offers me a taste, I was obliged and once pinch packed in my lip nicely wetted and tasted my head started spinning like a six beer sesson at this point I didn’t give a shit if he was driving to the moon. Having this enjoyable experience only baited me for more.

    I was not addicted for a number of years following but from time to time dabbled or ‘treated’ a little. Once graduated I went to work, got married, started family and estabilishment. At this time of life dip took a break but every day was full throttle forward with no time to reflect. So no Chew.

    Ten years in with young family and everything going well I was into Doctor for annual checkup….. Ten days later was called and asked to come in and meet with Doctor, he had couple of blood questions he wanted to discuss with me.

    This meeting led me into knowledge of having aml-leukemia a need to have a bone marrow transplant. Prompt treatment led to successful bone-marrow-transplant, curing cancer but not with out couple of troubles to follow. These forced me out of workplace and led to me to long term disability pension. My kids are now well in process, wife not wanting anymore and decided to take her share and leave….
    ……and Mikey back to Skoal.

    These days, here in Canada, tabbacco has become priced beyond any normal person’s budget capabilities so unless you are wealthy/secure you donot have the luxury’s option. I have tried to make changes to the way/rate/dose and frequencies to make habit affordable but it always seem to come back to 1 Tin/Day which my budget will not allow and habit has to go or significant lifestyles are adopted.

    Wish me luck…!!

    Mike

  24. Day 4 after 15 years of chewing. Not really getting easier but I know it must be done. The fog is tough to fight through and the sores keep appearing. I know it must be done my little girl is counting on me.

  25. I am 40hrs dip free. After 10yrs of dipping. I am also a female. I was introduced to a can of classic Smokey Mountain on Saturday and then Monday I went out bought 3 cans of classic and 1 can of mint for my husband. Told him if he makes me relapse I’m leaving him. I need and want to quit, he’s either along with me or he’s gone.
    I don’t want to lose my teeth or my life.
    Cravings hit me at night and before kids go to school and after kids get home from school.
    Found that lemon juice really cuts food cravings and also keeps me awake.
    So bc I don’t wanna gain 300 lbs or anything at all. I am sticking to the Lemon juice.
    Plus I’ve already gone through 1 can of the fake stuff in 2 days so…probably gunna need more of that. No head ache yet. Hope that’s due to the Kudzu Root!

  26. I am on day 5 and it’s not the cravings as much as me getting a sore throat. I am also really tired. Now I have dipped for 31 years. I wondering how long until my wife notices. I think that is the part that scares me the most.

    • I dipped be for 42 years and I am at day 76. Feels like day 2 this morning, but I will get through. I am glad to be quit and do not want to go back. The fog is a tough time, I have not had bad craves, but the fog and feeling like I am going crazy I’d the toughest part. Keep it going Wes.

    • Today is my first day dip free thanks for sharing

  27. This Friday will be 2 weeks for me.

  28. I quit dipping a week and one day ago after 37 years. always said I was going to quit and never did it. When I turned 50 I told myself I am through with it. I am like others, I enjoyed dipping – I used a can a day. I no longer crave it like I did last week – congrats to all that have quit!

  29. Going on 38 hours and I don’t know if it’s withdrawl or not but I miss having a dip!! Picked up some Smokey mountain wintergreen and it’s helping. Fingers crossed!!

  30. day one, here we go :/

  31. Tonight makes 72 hours! Not easy at all!!

  32. Just made 48 hours, after dipping 26 years. Omg I want to just run to 7/11 and get a tin of kodiak wintergreen!!

  33. 3 years ago today I had my last dip after 25 years of dipping. Not sure how I will celebrate tomorrow but I do know it’s one of my greatest accomplishments.
    This site helped me in so many ways. Special thanks to JAYP and Chewie.
    To anyone who is thinking about quitting or struggling right now please remember it can be done! Use this site however it works for u. And no matter what do not put a dip in. Believe me it will get better…..Peace. Franco

    • Excellent Job Franko!!

    • Franco! Long time no comment…good to see you’ve remained free.
      Congrats on 3 years, hell of an accomplishment, friend.
      I’m headed towards 4 years free, this July.
      Agree with what you said, after 25 years abusing, myself close to 30 years…it CAN be done…and don’t ever look back, no such thing as “just 1”
      Best wishes on your continued quit Franco!
      -JP

    • Hey Franco I see I went 3 years! Quite an accomplishment. I’m on my 7th month of quitting after chewing snuff for 40 years. I still miss it every day , is that ever going to go away?

      • I’m going to jump in on this one, I think the “need” to have a dip passes. But the enjoyment of the oral fixation might not leave for a long time. I used fake dips for almost 2.5-3 years straight after my quit. I will be 4 years clean on July 15th. And I admit, I still have a fake can lying around. Its not that I “need” one, but if I ever feel the urge to dip, I will always have a fake one near. I don’t even carry the fake can anymore, its at home. I do chew gum, not as much as I once did. I used to use sunflower seeds as well, but I have stopped those too. So….to answer your question, I think you will miss it for a long time. If you can stay away from it all, do it. But if you feel you absolutely want a dip, go find you a fake one you like. There are several GOOD listed alternatives on this site. I tried several of them in those first 2 years. I finally settled on a couple, but as mentioned, I do not use them very often today. In fact, yesterday was the start of golf league. This is the first year I did not bring a can of the fake stuff or seeds out to the course. So the urge will eventually leave, but I still miss popping a fatty in and spitting all over the earth! But as much as I miss it, I also know, I will NEVER use that shit again. 25-30 years was enough for me, I am free now and plan on remaining that way.
        Good Luck Scott, congrats on 7 months free, that IS an accomplishment!
        Keep at it-
        -JP

        • “Still miss popping a fatty in and spitting all over the earth!” This is amazingly accurate.

          I’m 38 and started dipping when on the high school golf team because smoking cigarettes was too obvious. I eventually gave up the smokes and dipped full time. Skoal longcut for a while and then Copenhagen long cut. About 9 yrs ago I noticed my teeth were more yellow than white and bought $80 worth of gum. It took about four months to quit and ween myself off the gum. I was free until a friend visited and forgot his full can of Copenhagen longcut when leaving for Iraq. I told myself I couldn’t let it go to waste. That was sometime in 2009. Since then I’ve been steady dipping about a can a day.

          Recently started seeing a new physician. After doing several blood panels I’ve been diagnosed with adrenal failure and extremely low testosterone, like 75yr old women have more testosterone than me. Nicotine is a problem.

          Last week I bought some more gum, and used it for a few days before caving. Over the weekend I caught a stomach virus that knocked me out for 24hrs. I realized I hadn’t had a plug since the day before. Terrible headaches, anxiety, brain fog, sore throat, and even indigestion. Taking Tylenol and Xanax (been in our cabinet for years) to combat some of the side effects. I’ve just passed the 72 hr mark. Fighting cravings aggressively with deep breathing exercises, starting the stopwatch on my phone, getting up and walking outside every time one hits. I’ve noticed I’m substituting with food which is fine by me. Most people gain around five pounds. I can lose it later. I want to hate the hastle of dipping. I want to be grossed out by spit bottles. But, honestly, I just want to pop a fatty in and spit all over the earth.

      • Scott,
        Congrats on 7 months. That’s huge. Amazing after 40 years u can go that long without a chew.
        Will it ever go away? That’s a tough question. I know for me I went cold turkey. The only thing I changed up was no sports talk radio in the car. I switched to jazz. I didn’t use any fake dip, or gum, or seeds. I just quit. It was brutal. No joke. People like JAYP helped me. Reading posts by so many others helped me. But the key was never dipping again. Personally, I don’t really think about it much anymore. So I guess “it went away” for me. Every quit is different. Every struggle is unique. My best advise is no matter what stay quit. Never go back to day 1.
        Peace Franco

        • I agree for me also it was all mental. It was hard mentally for about five six weeks, after that it was still a little tough. But it got easier, once you convince yourself that it’s over you will succeed…. even if you slip up once or twice you do not have to start back up again, just a mental note, but take it serious

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