What To Expect When You Quit Dipping

What To Expect When You Quit Dipping

So you want to quit. And you would like to know what it’s like. We’re not going to pull any punches around here, it’s tough. That’s why we’re all here.

Days 1 through 3 – Pure hell. You will walk in the fog. Nothing will seem real. Your brain is wondering where the hell its fix is and it is going to punish you until you come up with it. 72 hours, that’s all you need to get the nicotine out of your system. This is where you start to deal with the physical withdrawal associated with quitting dip. Drink lots of water. Read, post, read and post. Don’t take your anger out on your loved ones. We always tell everyone………Make this quit about YOU. If you quit for your wife, girlfriend, boyfriend, kids, mommy or daddy, you will resent them during this period. Quit for yourself and come in here to rant. Yell at us. Bitch at us. We can take it. We’ve been there.

Days 4 through 20 – Here comes the mind games. The nicotine is out of your system now. You will still have some physical things to deal with.

  • Cravings
  • Irritability
  • Insomnia
  • Fatigue
  • Inability to Concentrate
  • Headache
  • Sore throat
  • Constipation, gas, stomach pain
  • Dry mouth
  • Sore tongue and/or gums

Yep, you have this to look forward to. Your brain is rewiring itself. It isn’t used to being in an oxygen rich environment. Your body is responding in kind. Everything is a mind game now. All the cravings you have are actually due to triggers. Triggers are events where you are in a situtation you would normally dip in. Mowing the grass, playing poker online, playing golf, working on the car………you get the picture. Keep drinking water, use seeds, the fake stuff, whatever you need to keep the dip out of your mouth. Remember, oral fixation is part of our habit, something you will eventually need to break. For now though, use all the tools you have.

Days 20 – 50 – You’re winning. Life isn’t great, but you probably had a couple of nights where you actually got some sleep. You might notice you’re going to bed earlier than you normally do. Not staying up to get in that last dip. You may notice some sores in your mouth. You’re thinking, “great, I quit dipping and now I have cancer.” You almost certainly don’t. Your mouth is healing itself. Tiny ulcers you’ve had for a long time are healing. We recommend you visit your dentist around the 30 day mark. Don’t be a pansy, just do it. He or she will be very supportive and they can explain the sores much better than we can. Don’t let your guard down. Don’t go out drinking with the fellas or the girls. We also recommend that you don’t drink for at least the first 50 days. Drinking is a huge trigger event and it weakens your resolve.

Days 50 – 70 – Cruise control. Life is really good. You still think about it, but this is good stuff here. Some people may suffer anxiety attacks during or a little before this stage. Some doctors say we dipped to relieve anxiety anyway. Some people can push right through this, others need a little help. Talk to your doctor before you quit or immediately after you quit. They will know what to do. Some give Wellbutrin or Lexapro. Lots of people in the support community take or have taken these medicines and can help you with the affects. Don’t wait till you get to this stage of the game to talk to a doctor. You’ll cruise through this stage much easier if you know how to take care of the anxiety or at least know it’s coming.

Days 70 – 90 – Late term craves, the doldrums, the blahs, the blues. Some people end up feeling like they are right back at day 1. The fog, the haze, the craves. It can be a tough time. You need to let people in your group know this is happening. Time to circle the wagons to get through it. It usually only lasts a few days. Fight through this and make sure your order your HOF Knife or Coin. Here are a couple of articles about this time period which we refer to as “The Funk”

Days 90 – HOF – Houston, resume the countdown. Enjoy the hell out of these last 10 days. You will be celebrating with your group as you all enter the HOF. It is a great feeling and an accomplishment you should not take lightly. Do something special for yourself and your family. They put up with your sorry ass for the last 90 days and they deserve something too.

100+ Days – Stay vigilant. Use the tools you have, to continue beating back any cravings or urges. You will still experience dip dreams and longings, but you are fully qualified to beat them down. Continue to post roll with your group. Get into the newer groups and help somebody out. Pass it along. Live the dream.

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    1. Congratulations Donald !! Hang in there!! I am at 213 days. I spent many days in my early days here in this section. It was a real encouragement!!

  1. Hi im Chris, 27, rolling up on hour 48 of quitting. Its tough. Been chewing a tin a day for the past 5-6 years. Im a nurse and during this pandemic my pife has been so stressful. Its almost like i try and use that as an excuse to chew. I need to find a healthier way to deal with the stress. Hope this ends soon.

    1. First off… thanks for your service out there – stay safe and healthy.

      Secondly… proud to be quit with you! You’ve made an INCREDIBLE decision – you are NOT alone. Let us know how we can help along the way! If you haven’t yet, I’d urge you to check out our forums – https://ktcforum.org/

    2. im just over 48 hours too man, and im a paramedic. Ive been telling myself the same thing, that there’s just too much going on to quit right now. but I realized I’ve been telling myself that about various stressors the last couple of years. That part won’t change, so I need to.

  2. THIS PAGE CHANGED MY LIFE. *not hyperbole*

    Hi, my name is Tim, and you can see my story if you click in the “older comments” on this page. Today is the 378th day of my quit. It is shocking to see a number that big, because eventually they grow larger and larger without you even noticing. Day 1 of my quit was 11/6/2019. I come back to this page from time to time to read through what I went through when I quit and remind myself it was never worth it, usually each time adding another comment to my story by replying to my original posts. I come back and click on the older comments to see me describing my journey and how weak I was early on in the quit. I also come back to remind myself why I quit (my son and wife) and why quitting can be inspiring to others (my father, who is still struggling to fully quit but has gone from a 2 cigar a day smoker to 1 per month.)

    I had tried to quit before finding this site, but I decided it was “too hard” each time because I did NOT know what to expect when I quit. I thought I was going to have mouth pain for a much longer time. I thought that my cravings would be as strong as they were forever. I thought that it wasn’t possible to shake dip. But this page allowed me to create a game plan on how to get through each stage of quitting, and the first time I tried quitting with a plan, I quit cold turkey without any nicotine gum/patches/etc and without continuing the “habit” part of dipping by using mint chews or other products. I am not saying this will work for everyone, or even bragging, and I hope it doesn’t come across that way. I am just saying that this specific page and the “what to expect” information above is amazing.

    Congrats on looking into quitting. That’s step one. I hope this site gives you the strength to continue walking like it did for me.

    1. That is very true, whomever came with that timeline of events hit the bulls eye. It is a focal point to all of us that found this page and hung on to that list of symptoms day by day. I now am over 2 years quit, but during my first 100 days I walked on that line and when my knees got weak, i referenced back to the timeline for strength always remembering our group war slogan “This too shall pass”, posted my 100 day HOF speech, completed 2 years, bought my KTC coin to celebrate and continue walking away everyday.
      Hang in there everyone. It is worth it.
      Day 761
      10-22-2018

  3. I started my quit yesterday, I know I never quite dipped as much as some of the guys on here but it still feels good to begin the quit. Being only 20, I’ve only been dipping/zyning for about 3 years now but in that time it’s already started to take massive control over daily life. I figure I might as well quit now. Why not? I’m tired of dip telling me how to live my life, when to eat, when to sleep, all that stuff I’m done with. Congrats to everyone on here who’s still fighting, one day at a time!! Thanks for everyone’s support as well.

  4. 2 Years Quit!!!

    I waited until midnight to proudly tell all you guys and girls that today I complete 732 days, or 2 years and 2 days quit. On October 22 of 2018 I said I’ve had enough, I spat my last spit and threw away the last can, walked away and didn’t look back, there were rough patches along the way, it is mostly all behind me. I am looking forward to the third year now, but today I am honored to quit with all of you today.
    Hang in there warriors. (JayP, JeffJ, Shiva, Chewie…..I did it!!)…

    DDD
    Oct-22-2018
    732 Days

      1. JeffJ, always there to cheer us on, thanks partner, hope you are doing good and staying safe. Also any updates on the restoration project?
        DDD

    1. Congrats DDD!
      2 years…. definitely an accomplishment. Proud of you, you came back from failure stronger than several others.
      Keep quit, I’m here for you brother
      -JP
      07-15-2014

        1. Thanks Shiva, you are trailing right behind, Let us know when you cross that second year. Hope you are doing good with all these crazy pandemics and things that add to the stress of the quit, specially for the new guys in here. Stay safe.

  5. I’m about 2 months in to my second quit. I really hate the late onset of some of the withdrawal symptoms like the pins and needles feelings, and the aches and pains. Determined to not start again. I made it about 4 months last time and started again during fishing season and gave it up again about mid August, reading everyone’s comments about their quit really helps to ease my mind.

    1. Congratulations on your 150 days, that is a great accomplishment, also good to hear you’re feeling better, Keep up the good work, one day at a time.

  6. Day 716

    In 2 weeks I will be 2 years free of the nicotine. Life is on track again, feeling strong, but on guard. I realized I am an addict and only my will is keeping me from getting back to dipping.

    DDD
    Oct-22-2018

    1. Good job DDD! Yes. Me too. I am admit it. Addiction to the nic bitch. I run from it. Hahah

      Hope all well my friends. Take care
      Jeffj
      8-14-14

    2. Year #2 in the cross hairs, very good DDD!
      I’ve admitted it in the past and will again, I too am an addict. I know what “one more” will do. I’m done with all of that.
      Stay strong, you and only you can keep yourself true. Most selfish thing you can do for yourself.
      Stay strong, we’ll see you at 2 years👍
      Wishes to all my Quit Bros out here,
      -JP
      07-15-14

      1. Thanks JayP, by the way, you haven’t change your avatar yet?, mine is also pretty geeky, but i think that’s the whole idea behind it. We all danged Morons for getting addicted. Take care buds!

    3. Good going DDD :).. Will join u in another ~4 months time. hhahahahaha.. I too admit, I am an addict and but not taking one more puff/chew/dip/gum, I keep nic bitch at bay.. Maintaining social distancing 🙂 .. hahahaha

      Shiva
      Day 589

  7. 69 days only real hard parts are those times when you would always pack a lip but for the most part day to day livings not so bad

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    1. Good job on your first 72 Justin…just take it one hour at a time. This is a marathon not race. Post often so we can help!
      Good Luck,
      -JP
      07-15-14

  8. Day 708

    Thanks guys, I am proud to say I did not cave in, the Intense crave came and went and it’s back on cruise control. Jayp, JeffJ and Shiva thanks for pulling me out of the nose dive I was in. Shiva, It’s taken me a few days to think back and understand that crave. You are correct, my brain got shorted out (Sort of speak) because I went to this pool hall and it has been over 2 years since I’ve gone to it. I used to go there before I started my quit, when I would get out, I would go to a gas station right across the street and buy a can for the long drive home. That is exactly what triggered the crave. I was doing it step by step as in the past, my brain was expecting that dose of Nicotine and it didn’t happen so it kept pushing and pushing for its fix and that is why I couldn’t shake it off, I had to distract my brain by working out and doing other things to finally stop the crave.
    On a positive note, in 22 days I will complete 2 years free of Nicotine, I’ve already bought my 2 year coin, so I’ll try taking a picture with it and send it to you guys or post it here somewhere.
    Again, thanks for being there guys. You all stay safe.

    DDD
    22-Oct-2018

  9. Day 11 and it seems to just get harder. Honestly the first week wasn’t horrible. But the last 5 or so days have been terrible. I’ve went thru 5 cans of Smokey mountain in 5 days. First week I didn’t use the stuff at all, maybe a few jolly ranchers is all. I’m afraid I’m gonna cave in soon at this point. Have dipped almost 2 cans a day for almost 25 years. Mentally is certainly the hardest part for me. Boredom at work when I typically chew is rough

    1. Jason

      You have 5 days of victory. I hope u don’t cave now… yes it’s hard. And if you had the chance of reading the comments here, your Not alone You are also describing what I refer to as the “ suck”. Yes it sucks , but the reward is worth it. Your quit , like mine was a challenge daily ( Copenhagen can a day 20 years).

      Read some older post of DDD. Shiva. And jayp. You will read that the struggle you have now, was accomplished by these guys.. your are NOT alone.

      We each had a challenge with the quit. I ate carrots. DDD worked out lime a mad man. You can do it.

      When I quit. I was here 2 -5 times a day. Come here and share what your challenges are having. And give yourself a slap on the back for getting 5 days away from the nic bitch

      Jeffj
      8-14-14

      1. Thank you. It’s amazing to have healthy looking gums and cheeks again and my mouth feels less filthy. It’s been 11 days total but the positives absolutely outweigh the negatives of quitting. Gotta keep telling myself that. Just seems the last few days have been the hardest. First week wasn’t as bad as I expected. I mean it was miserable but I kept myself occupied and challenged myself. I’m sure it gets easier

  10. Day 704
    I just got to the 7th floor and I am close to my 2 year quit date, but I am not going to lie folks. in the last couple of days I have been steadily having Nic attacks. I thought by now, this would be over, but it isn’t . I’ve been thinking about if I am doing something that triggers these craves or what is going on.
    The only thing i can come up with is the following: when I started my quit, the craves were hourly during the first days, after a couple of weeks the cravings were more circling on a weekly basis, then monthly and now it seems to loop on a yearly basis. These past months have been smooth sailing, but as I approach the 2 year mark, it seems that the craves are hitting hard. Last night I stopped at the gas station and seriously considered purchasing a can, I do not know how I managed not to do it, but I was ready to throw it all away. I went to sleep thinking it will go away like many times, but the thought is still there, as I am writing this, the crave to reach for the can is strong.
    Help guys!!
    DDD

    1. DDD, brother, you do not need to throw all your hard work away for a cheap thrill. You’ll regret turning back now. Almost 2 years, man…you are DONE with that stuff!
      I can’t recall having urges almost 2 years in to my quit, it’s possible though.
      Look at it this way, you go back now, not only will you regret it after that first taste again, it may be years before you quit again. And think about that 100 day struggle…you want to go through that he’ll again?
      If you really, REALLY want a dip, go grab a Smokey Mountain. I still have a few cans laying around that I will take if I want one. I don’t tell myself no to that fake stuff. But nicotine? Nicotine is a past chapter in my life.
      Stay Strong, Stay Clean!!
      -JP
      7-15-14

      1. Thanks Jayp, I went back to the cry battle we had “This too shall pass”. I took half a day off from work, worked out like a mad man and then took a nap, the craving went away, it is weird how I hadn’t been able to shake it up. It was on me like a tick on a dog. At least on me, I really think, this thing goes in cycles. I am hoping that was the last of the yearly cycle. Thanks for reaching out to me so quickly. This episode made me realize, that the words and knowledge we tell others in here can be used by ourselves, it’s just that they are very far and few now, that it might catch us off guard after being in cruise control for a long time. Again, thanks brother, glad to have you guys on my side, honestly, I don’t know how you and JeffJ did it on your own when we fell off the radar.

        DDD
        10/22/2018

        1. Yes sir, “This Too…Shall Pass”…and it always does.
          Always here for consoule.
          I can’t speak for Jeff, but I think for me, I never tried quitting nicotine “cold turkey”. It was a lot of shit to go through, so tough in fact, that I never want to go through it again. I kept (printed off) my 100 days of anguish. I did it to remind myself where I was, should I ever have the urge to turn back. Once I got past 6 months, I beat my last time I quit with the aid of nicorette gum and it became a challenge.
          I don’t know, I just have no interest in returning to my old habit of nicotine. I absolutely know I’m an addict. I learned when I selfishly tried nicotine after 6 months free and spent another 17 years dipping. I threw it all away because I thought I could “take just one”. It doesn’t work like that for me… I know ME now. That part of my life is history.
          As I mentioned, you are not cheating with the fake shit, I’d encourage it if you absolutely want it dip. You won’t like it as much, so I don’t think it will open any old feelings…just something to occupy a memory I guess.
          Anyway, you be good and stay vigilant.
          And to all you new comers, if DDD and I can win the battle(s) of addiction, you can too. Don’t be afraid to kick your habits ass!
          -JP
          07-15-14

          1. Jayp DDD

            We are human. I agree with jayp… I am a addict.. just the thought of a dip kinda makes me sick. My quit and all I went thru will always keep me away from a dip. If something triggers a dip.. I have in my tool chest all
            The tools to crush it, so do u DDD. A kick butt workout and a nap. I think a few years ago you would have wished it was that easy.

            I always remember the first two weeks of my quit.. the fight between the nic bitch and me.. I think of those days if I ever have a trigger. I will
            Admit,,, I don’t have the triggers anymore. I feel as though I never had a dip.

            Jeff’s
            8-14-14

    2. DDD – I am behind you so will not be a right person to advice 🙂 🙂 .. But I am happy to share my experience.

      The craving or intense wanting for nicotine is 99.9999% gone for me. However, last week when I was driving in my motorcycle to a place where I haven’t gone in for the last 2 years, I had a sudden intense urge. I was thinking about your post and stopped whatever I was doing for a moment. I had some time to think through and understood whenever I went to this place, I use to take a smoke break at one particular spot on the way. I understood I was crossing this point when the urge hit 🙂 . See, look at how our brain is wired 🙂 . Having said, the entire urge though intense did not last beyond 5 mins and I remembered about that only today morning after re-reading your post.
      Take away from all this – there will always be some odd occurrence once in a while, however it is more of a slight irritation than anything and we just need to wipe it off and move forward.. May be even this occurrence would go away after few more years.

      BTW, DDD I guess another 25 odd days for your 2 years mark right?? Woohoo… can’t wait to cheer you up.

      Shiva
      579 days

  11. Thought I’d make my mark here as a lot of these comments helped me. Today is day 105 after a 20yr 1-1.25 can of Copenhagen-a-day habit. I had quit once at at 28y/o for a year but was young and resilient then… I picked it back up thinking I was superman, but the second time was much harder due to age. This time I suffered some major bouts with anxiety and huge blood sugar swings to the point I thought I was dying. I could actually feel the attacks coming and could identify them enough to know I didn’t need to call 911.

    Part of what helped me aside from wanting to restore health and general well-being was the sheer cost of chewing. I started in the military like a lot here, and the cost of a log was about what 1.5-2cans cost today in California. So let’s do the math… ONE can of long cut here costs about $8.65 on average… Say 1.125cans/day average X 7days week X 52 weeks = $3550 a year! That’s approximately $41,000 in the last 20 years starting at $2.50 can and adding $1 every 2-3years. Imagine that money invested on the S&P 500 20years ago! I could have paid my mortgage.

  12. Hey guys, just a quick note to say good job for choosing to quit and fighting the good fight. Today, I complete 700 days since I took my last dip, it wasn’t easy, but it is worth it. Being normal, that is living without spitting everywhere, feels weird in the beginning, then it just becomes a way of life. Hang in there guys and girls, I am proud to say I quit with you all today.

    DDD
    Day 700
    Oct-22-2018

    1. Dang that’s awesome. Take pride in what you have done. I had a rough weekend but had a pretty good supportive group. Still sucks but my body really wanted nicotine

  13. Made 4 days today. Looking forward to getting off tobacco completely. Lots of fatigue due to lack of sleep but I haven’t been angry. My wife is being very supportive

    1. Hey Alton, congratulations on your 4th day. The Nicotine takes 3 days to be gone from your body, that is the physical part, now comes the mind games, get ready. You can do this, we are all here for you.

      DDD
      698 Days

    2. Same. Day #4 today and mainly just very tired and can’t sleep. Just woke up randomly on a Wednesday morning and decided to see if I could quit. It’s hard but not as hard as I thought. I have 4 cans in my truck and a can Smokey mountain fake snuff I bought. Haven’t touched any of them yet

      1. Congratulations on day 4, watch out, the Nic bitch is sneaky like that, makes you think you got it under control, then it freaking hits hard. I, like you, kept my last can around, just for the hell of it. On day 99, hell came to town, I took it and went back to it for 4 years. Chewie, Jayp, JeffJ, Shiva and others in here can testify. Never underestimate your enemy.

      2. DDD is correct, I too kept my last can around, which as DDD points out, is very, VERY ballsy. He too told me how ballsy it was to keep it around. In fact, it took about 4 years before I tossed it out. But mine was kept to remind me of the smirk the store owner gave me, when I bought it on the day I told him I was quitting. It angered me so much that I kept it to remind me that I and only I was going to quit this habit. It worked, but as DDD says, it can absolutely backfire on you. I would take a whiff of it on occasion, but I never ever touched the contents with my fingers again. In fact, as time went on, the smell actually gagged me. So…I can understand keeping that can around if you’re strong enough to use it for only motivation. You KNOW you…if you think for one second you might take a pinch, toss it out NOW! I used mine for motivation and it worked.
        Good luck, great job on 4 days clean…I too uses Smokey Mountain and Triumph zero strength was my favorite. I still take a Smokey Mountain once in a while, 6 years later…but not very often these days. Post your victories here, us veterans want to help!
        -JP
        07-15-14

    1. Yep, that usually happens when you grind your teeth, but to give yourself peace of mind like the rest of us, go and check with a dentist, you will be so happy afterwards. I had to drag myself to the dentist office and I aint gonna lie, I was totally scared, once i found out it was nothing I was super relieved.

      DDD
      Day 698

      1. My dentist says there is nothing but pain is there….Do mouth pain is common….how much time may it take share some experience please….

        1. We are all different so it is hard to say, pain and swelling are symptoms of underlying causes, but it might be as simple as teeth grinding ( I started using a mouth guard at night) or it could be the pillows that you use (I started sleeping almost sitting up to fight the neck pain and GERD i was getting). I also started eating right and excercising pretty heavily to shift the attention away from aches, pains, and mind games of the quit. If your dentist told you there’s nothing wrong, then I would visit a general practitioners or internal medicine doctor for a more accurate diagnosis. Hope that helps, let us know how you doing.

          1. Thanks DDD it helps me a lot…..I am feeling better now….pain is reduced and sleep issue also gone….thanks every one here for motivation…..
            Day 141 of quitting dip

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