What To Expect When You Quit Dipping

What To Expect When You Quit DippingSo you want to quit. And you would like to know what it’s like. We’re not going to pull any punches around here, it’s tough. That’s why we’re all here.

Days 1 through 3 – Pure hell. You will walk in the fog. Nothing will seem real. Your brain is wondering where the hell its fix is and it is going to punish you until you come up with it. 72 hours, that’s all you need to get the nicotine out of your system. This is where you start to deal with the physical withdrawal associated with quitting dip. Drink lots of water. Read, post, read and post. Don’t take your anger out on your loved ones. We always tell everyone………Make this quit about YOU. If you quit for your wife, girlfriend, boyfriend, kids, mommy or daddy, you will resent them during this period. Quit for yourself and come in here to rant. Yell at us. Bitch at us. We can take it. We’ve been there.

Days 4 through 20 – Here comes the mind games. The nicotine is out of your system now. You will still have some physical things to deal with.

  • Cravings
  • Irritability,
  • Insomnia
  • Fatigue
  • Inability to Concentrate
  • Headache
  • Sore throat
  • Constipation, gas, stomach pain
  • Dry mouth
  • Sore tongue and/or gums

Yep, you have this to look forward to. Your brain is rewiring itself. It isn’t used to being in an oxygen rich environment. Your body is responding in kind. Everything is a mind game now. All the cravings you have are actually due to triggers. Triggers are events where you are in a situtation you would normally dip in. Mowing the grass, playing poker online, playing golf, working on the car………you get the picture. Keep drinking water, use seeds, the fake stuff, whatever you need to keep the dip out of your mouth. Remember, oral fixation is part of our habit, something you will eventually need to break. For now though, use all the tools you have.

Days 20 – 50 – You’re winning. Life isn’t great, but you probably had a couple of nights where you actually got some sleep. You might notice you’re going to bed earlier than you normally do. Not staying up to get in that last dip. You may notice some sores in your mouth. You’re thinking, “great, I quit dipping and now I have cancer.” You almost certainly don’t. Your mouth is healing itself. Tiny ulcers you’ve had for a long time are healing. We recommend you visit your dentist around the 30 day mark. Don’t be a pansy, just do it. He or she will be very supportive and they can explain the sores much better than we can. Don’t let your guard down. Don’t go out drinking with the fellas or the girls. We also recommend that you don’t drink for at least the first 50 days. Drinking is a huge trigger event and it weakens your resolve.

Days 50 – 70 – Cruise control. Life is really good. You still think about it, but this is good stuff here. Some people may suffer anxiety attacks during or a little before this stage. Some doctors say we dipped to relieve anxiety anyway. Some people can push right through this, others need a little help. Talk to your doctor before you quit or immediately after you quit. They will know what to do. Some give Wellbutrin or Lexapro. Lots of people in the support community take or have taken these medicines and can help you with the affects. Don’t wait till you get to this stage of the game to talk to a doctor. You’ll cruise through this stage much easier if you know how to take care of the anxiety or at least know it’s coming.

Days 70 – 90 – Late term craves, the doldrums, the blahs, the blues. Some people end up feeling like they are right back at day 1. The fog, the haze, the craves. It can be a tough time. You need to let people in your group know this is happening. Time to circle the wagons to get through it. It usually only lasts a few days. Fight through this and make sure your order your HOF Knife or Coin. Here are a couple of articles about this time period which we refer to as “The Funk”

Days 90 – HOF – Houston, resume the countdown. Enjoy the hell out of these last 10 days. You will be celebrating with your group as you all enter the HOF. It is a great feeling and an accomplishment you should not take lightly. Do something special for yourself and your family. They put up with your sorry ass for the last 90 days and they deserve something too.

100+ Days – Stay vigilant. Use the tools you have, to continue beating back any cravings or urges. You will still experience dip dreams and longings, but you are fully qualified to beat them down. Continue to post roll with your group. Get into the newer groups and help somebody out. Pass it along. Live the dream.

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  1. Thanks. I went cold turkey… no seeds, no gum, no Smokey Mountain. I don’t want anything to remind me of chewing. It was rough days 1-10… I feel like I made it over the first hump, but I’m focused on being chew free. I’ve quit before and I know it can sneak back up on you. This site def helps.
    Good luck and peace
    Franco

  2. Hi guys,

    You’ve got 2 new quitters on the boards now. I’ve been dipping since I was 20 playing college baseball (25 now). Buddy of mine has been doing pouches for a couple years and we’re finally ready to end this. We’ve got each other as a support system but figured we could use a couple hundred more of you all.

    Today is day one for me. I’ve gone weeks and months before quitting cold turkey only to have relapses. I was reading articles on Tony Gwynn and Curt Schilling and their ultimate diagnosis because of the stuff which scared me straight.

    I’m not sure how some of you felt, but right now I feel panicky, fidgety, and maybe even borderline breakdown. Everything feels like it normally would when quitting, and my mouth surprisingly for the most part looks semi-healthy…pink gums, white teeth, etc…just one little spot has started to hurt on the right side where the gum meets the tooth. Doesn’t hurt to drink or eat, but touching it causes mild pain in the area. Might be a little swollen too. Have any of you guys had the same experience?

    • “I’m not sure how some of you felt, but right now I feel panicky, fidgety, and maybe even borderline breakdown.”

      Absolutely, positively… yes. Anxiety was a HUGE part of my quit, to the point where I took myself to the ER because I thought I was having a heart attack – TWICE. Hang in there my man… you’re right on track. If you haven’t yet, get on our forums where we’ve got nearly 24,000 members that “get it”. http://forum.killthecan.org/

      • Thanks Chewie. Will do!

      • Same here , Grizzly wintergreen pouches made my heart race and panic attacks. Quit for a month now, after 20 years I hate it.

        • Grizzly Wintergreen is my choice… I’ve only been off for two days. Reading what’s to come has me nervous. Already struggling to function.

          • Daniel first day off Grizzly Wintergreen pouches. Sucks right now but I’ll make it. Kinda like my head is stopping up and I jus want to lay down. Strange feeling.

      • Hey guys this site has helped so much,I’m on day 27 no snuff cop turkey ,anxiety, depression , head aches , sore throat , neck pain, sore tounge . I dipped for 7 years and smoked for 20 years before that ,I’m through with this shit. I’m going to see a doctor because my throat keeps bothering me off and on of course the anxiety keeps telling me I have throat cancer , I’m sure I don’t butt I want to put my mind at ease . Good luck everyone .stay strong you can do it .

        • Go to the doctor and make sure. I’m on day 62 and anxiety has made me see ENT 3 times with 2 scopes. I’ve been to the dentist 3 times for oral cancer screens and I finally went to a psychiatrist. Been on Xanax on and off for the last 2-3 weeks. Cancer anxiety has been terrible but better the last week. I know I 99.9% don’t have cancer but the weird throat and tongue symptoms combined with anxiety make my mind go crazy. I’m a doctor and I know better but the anxiety I’ve had is awful. It is getting better and it is worth quitting. Don’t chew again the anxiety will get better but go see whatever doctor you need to see to put your mind at ease.

          • Thanks so much for responding ,no bullshit I needed to hear that ,my mind is definitely playing tricks on me I got an appointment July 1 ear nose and throat. I’ll never put my life in jeopardy with tobacco again. Thanks Jeff really man hanks

          • I am soo glad to hear of others going through this. I’ve been quit since April 24th. But the last 4 weeks were hell. I had sores in my mouth, pain in my throat, and anxiety to match. Went to the Dr. He said all was fine. Went to the dentist, made him check and recheck and he too said there was nothing to worry about. Still couldn’t stop worrying. Went back to the Dr. And he gave me some anti-anxiety meds. Going back to both next week just to check up, and I’m talking to a therapist the week after. Never thought it would be this hard. Good luck to all the others.

          • John, Jeff T and Mel
            It is great to see you guys helping each other out that’s why this site is so helpful for quitters.
            I had awful anxiety that came in spurts around day 60 and then again around day 90. Not to mention the first few weeks. I had xanax but never really took it, I’m anti-meds when I can be but I encourage using it if you need it.
            Mine wasn’t cancer it was heart attack, I was able to rationalize to myself that a kodiak would not help my heart just like a dip won’t help your cancer. Still in my head what I was feeling was a heart attack and it wasn’t…..luckily
            Also, I definitely recommend getting screened by a dentist.
            You guys are doing great and what you are going thru, while awful, is completely normal and every quitter on here had their rounds with anxiety.
            Steve
            Day 220 something

  3. Day 11 of cold turkey. Not as bad as expected. Had really slowed down though. Cravings are worse in the evening. I fight them off though. Even if I drink with friends I fight them off. Keep up everyone. You’re stronger than the can.

  4. I’m a swedish girl and have been chewing (or as we do it in Sweden, suck on it under the upper lip) for almost 16 years. I’ve quit before but always started up again for some dumb ass reason. Now I’m really starting to thinking about quitting again and for good this time. This site really helped me see the benefits from it.

    • Lina, join us in the forums and sign up http://forum.killthecan.org/ you can become part of the august HOF group. I’ve been in for a week and everyone’s been a huge help so far. There’s so much support because everyone has been where you are and we all have the same goal. Kick the nic!

    • Hey Lina! I’m a girl too and have been dipping for about 6 years. I’ve quit once for about 6 months but I fell back into it this past year. It’d be really great to have a gal for support! I hope you come in contact with me!

    • Hi Lina! I used snus for the three years before I quit (I quit on 4/27). I Smoked for two years, chewed/dipped for three and used snus for three. Snus was something that I thought would help me taper. Although it contained less nicotine per gram, nicotine is nicotine. I hope you have quit and that it is going well for you!

    • Hey Lina, and Lauren! Great to see other woman dealing with this same problem. I’ve been chewing since I was 15, I stopped about two years ago cold turkey. I was actually doing well, then started again. I’m on day 5 this time, and my symptoms are much worse. The headaches are getting to me. Good to have support. :)

  5. Anyone have any tips for a sore tongue and mouth

    • Hey Cody – I’ve dealt with quite a few sores during my quit. I’ve put together a couple of blog posts that you may find helpful: http://blog.killthecan.org/tag/canker/

      As for tips… coffee / alcohol can make them worse. As can stress. Not much you can do about stress, but cutting out coffee / alcohol may help.

      There are several mouth washes / rinses that can be helpful as well.

    • This hurts really bad, but it helps…. gurgle warm salt water…. it helps.

  6. This is my fourth time trying to stop using smokeless. Came home yesterday and just blanked out till about 10 then I couldn’t sleep till maybe one. My body feels like it’s in no gravity. Seems as if the longer I wait the tougher it gets. Might as well come through this time a round.

    • Roll with those punches Cesar, the first 30 are the hardest, just stick with your commitment. Each day that passes, it WILL get easier, promise, you got this!
      -JP

  7. Day 33 today. Anxiety sure kicked my butt the last 3 weeks. The last 2 days have been good and I actually slept without waking up 4-5 times last night.

    • Way to beat the habit Jeff! You are about at the time that things begin to taper of, the Anxiety at least. You’ll still have a few bouts ahead of you, but nothing compared to the warzone these first 30 days have been for you, keep up the Fight!
      -JP
      Day #317

      • Thanks JayP. Still not feeling great but I think I’ve gotten over one hurdle.

        • Keep it up Jeff, you’re off to a great start. I had horrible bouta of anxiety they came and went for a while. They definitely pass in time but suck while you’re going thru it. More than once I was convinced I was having a heart attack, of course I wasn’t. I was convinced a kodiak would answer my problems, till I realized how dumb that was. A nasty chemical laced pinch of tobacco is not going to help my heart in any way. Crazy how hooked I was but no more.
          This weekend. My neighbor gave me one dip of kodiak in the tin, I gave it back to him the next day. Amazingly enough the smell turned me off.
          Steve
          Day 208

  8. I just came across this sight trying to Google an answer… I’m on day 10 and I’ve had the worst sore throat that doesn’t seem to be getting better. I’ve gone to the Dr because I swore maybe I had throat cancer. Have NY of yall had this?

  9. 23_and_getting_free

    I’ve been reading these for about two hours now and decided to join. Y’all are very inspiring! My wife and I just found out we’re expecting our first child, time to make that leap after 10 years of chewing. I quit once when I first moved to go to bible college, went a month and a buddy kept offering me a dip. I thought “just one won’t hurt”. Here I am another three years later. Time to be done for good!
    Nick-
    Day 1 of my road to freedom.

    • Congrats on making the choice to be free again 23!
      And congrats on the first child, everyone has their reasons for quitting, a child is definitely a good one too.
      I couldn’t agree more with your “just one won’t hurt” comment, I threw away 6 months of freedom thinking that myself. In fact, it was almost 17 years later that I quit again after restarting! At least you “know” now (like me), there is no such thing as “one”. We’re all addicts here, like it or not, once one comes to realize that, the battle against quitting becomes a little easier. Good luck and let us know how you’re doing!!
      -JP
      Day #319

    • Decided to join myself after reading comments for a few hours. I deceived myself into thinking this copenhagen dependence was ok for 30 years. I’m on my third day and nothing can prepare you for the terror of time standing still when there is no dip feeding your system. I’m caught in an emotional kaleidoscope filled with broken images of dependence that I’ve run from for 30 years. I stopped running two days ago and confronted this beast that I had given a place of honor at my families table to. One of us is gong down and it’s not going to be me, I half way through day 3.

      • Ben, reading your post just fired me up! I love the anger you have towards the habit, this alone will help push you through. Many people I speak with out here that are successful at quitting all have one thing in common, they got pissed!
        Keep up your fight, you can do this!
        -JP

  10. Ben

    I was a slave to Copenhagen for almost 30 years myself, I quit August 9 2014. Your are in a fight with the nic bitch, and each hour is a battle, but keep fighting! Yes it sucks, but my advice to you is ; Excersise as much as you can and drink water. Use the fake shit , seeds… Or in my case, I was a carrot freak.

    I am in your corner! Keep us updated and don’t give up!

    Jayp

    We are getting close to a year! We rock

    Jeff

    • Hey Jeff!
      Good to hear from you, hope all is well. Yes sir, rapidly approaching that 1 year mark, cannot believe how fast it went by.
      Good to see you out here lending a hand when you can, hope to see you out here more.
      Keep up my friend and I couldn’t agree more, we DO ROCK!!!
      -JP
      Day #322

  11. Jeff, thanks man. Started day 5 this morning and things are looking up. I Could never have imagined how bad those first four days would be! I’m so thankful that I feel like going outside and doing something today. I’ve spent four days sweating and going in and out of sleep (or coma). I don’t ever want to do that again. I’m using the atomic fireball jawbreakers and my Bible as weapons to fight this thing and be done with being a slave to a plant.

  12. Ben
    Hey man, I remember the exact same feelings day 1-5, but look at what you have accomplished! 5 days dude…that’s so awesome. You will have many changes to your body, and mental games in the future, but knowing you made it 5 days…You can handle what is coming. The information here is pretty much accurate on the timeing of events that will happen. I remember how I felt after 5 days…The fog is next, and it can last maybe 30 days, but just finish each day without a fatty, and before you know it, we will be reading your hall of fame speech.

    Hit me up with any questions….feelings…I am here.

    Good luck brother..
    Jeff
    Quit date
    August 9 2014

  13. I’m 24 I started chewing when i was around 19. I just quit probably around a week ago. I also quit smoking weed about 6 months ago. I can honestly say 2015 has been one hell of a ride. It’s fucked me around quite a bit. I’m a pretty outgoing average guy with a girlfriend. We have been dating for 4 1/2 years and for the entire time I’ve been with my girlfriend she had no idea I chewed tobacco. I told her a week ago I’ve been chewing for 5 years now and she was really shocked. I guess You can say that I liked to chew tobacco to seem normal without people knowing. I love the feeling it gives you when you are driving, or doing an athletic activity. I used to have a job where I drove a lot and that’s pretty much how I got so addicted. Any time I would get into my car I would dip. I also skateboard ALOT and anytime I would step on my skateboard at the park I would DIP. It was getting to the point where I would dip in the bathroom at work because I didn’t want people to know. The hardest part about quitting is when you have to do these daily routines where you would usually chew but now you can’t. Driving makes me very panicky. You can tell probably by this entire story that it’s not very well crafted and it’s because I’m getting withdrawals and also why I am on this site. I was never a can every five days kind of guy. I would usually make a can last up to 20 days usually. But what I realize now. It doesn’t matter how much you do it but how much you use it to feel normal or as a crutch. The symptoms I’ve been feeling are kind of sore eyes and a hard time swallowing when I feel the extreme withdrawals. It’s hard to concentrate and the days sort of just blend together. There isn’t a real consistent feeling of a full day anymore. Right now I’m feeling kind of depressed. I hope all of you guys can get through it because it’s just going to fuck us up in the end. The big corporations who own grizzly, or copeghnhagen don’t give a shit about us. So I think it’s time we all stop giving them out hard earned money.

    • Hi Bryan,
      What you’re talking about are the “triggers” associated with the habit. I too had many of them. Lifting Weights and chewing, doing projects around the house, long road trips, going fishing, after eating, taking a shower…hell, almost everything I did (even falling asleep & upon waking) were associated with taking a chew. Believe me, all of us quitters, GET IT!
      The other things you mention, sore throat, eyes, depression, concentration problems, YUP, all part of ridding the body of nicotine. You’re in the funk and probably have some mild anxiety tweaking your system too.
      I am not going to sugar coat it one bit, the first 30-40 days are just pure HELL! But eventually, within that time (30-40 days), it all lifts and you start to feel half-ass normal again. You’ll still have bad days, but there are definitely more good days than bad after this first 4-6 weeks.
      If I can give you anything solid, find yourself a fake supplement. There are several good “fake” chews out there. Try sunflower seeds, I am chomping on some while I type. Get some exercise, if you don’t do it, this is a great time to start. You will have so much pent up energy and instead of taking it out on the family or loved ones (or the owner of a dry cleaner, as I once did), get to running (literally) off this “energy” or go push some weights. I have a Heavy bag I beat the shit out of as well. ANYTHING to get this stuff out of you. And as another pointed out on here, drink lots of water. The sooner you get this nicotine out of you, then the real healing can begin.
      I agree 100% of what you said, Big Tobacco don’t give a shit about you, me or anyone else visiting this page…its all about the money!
      Take care and let us know how you’re doing!
      -JP

    • Bryan, I’m going on month 3 of my quit, it stills F’ing sucks. It does get better and the suck gets less. Don’t go without something to lean on, check out the fake dip reviews & pickup something to have for those drives & crabings. Good luck dude, a day at a time. Check back on the Roll Calls when you need a push.

  14. I’ve been quit for 4 days now. I’m 24 years old and have been chewing a can a day for about 5 years. Wondering if anyone has experienced jaw stiffness around the jaw muscles?I also have anxiety with it so maybe that’s an effect of anxiety. Of course I can’t sleep great and headaches but I’ve heard that’s normal.

    • Hi Ryan,
      All you’ve listed ARE associated with the quit. The Stiffness in the jaw can be tied with Anxiety, I know when I had it, I had jaw pain. Same with Headaches, sleep deprivation and a slew of other symptoms.
      Quitting isn’t easy, if it were, then EVERYONE would stop and start tobacco habits at will!
      Hang in there, you’re doing great!
      -JP

  15. Thanks Jay p! It’s nice to see other peoples experiences and symptoms of quitting. I’ve actually had been having pretty bad anxiety issues before I decided to quit hell the doctor even recommended not to quit while dealing with anxiety. I said screw it and went for it! I’m sure a lot of things I’m experiencing are just general anxiety. This is a great site though I actually was looking at this site about two weeks before I decided to quit. Everyone’s experiences in here really motivated me to quit!

    • No Problem Ryan, just hang in there. I never had any issues with anything remotely close to anxiety in all my life, that was up until about 2 years ago and the shit just a came a knocking! Didn’t have a clue what the hell that shit was, but I ended up going about 8 months until it was discovered. That shit is nothing to scoff at either! I feel bad for anyone that deals with that shit on a daily basis and have no clue what that shit is.
      Long story short, I ended up getting thru it, took about a year (with meds and counsel). But I finally got to a point where I dropped the meds, started to exercise again and eat right, then things got better, but it took time (and a whole lot of mental effort). THEN….I decided to really push the envelope (since I felt I could beat Anxiety), I’d quit my chewing habit of 25 years too, all in the same year!! Well, I was successful with that too, but I will tell you, I had another 12 rounds with Anxiety again in the process. And I still have bad days here and there today, even 323 days into my quit, but they are by far, few and far in between.
      You can do this, it isn’t easy as I said, but it can be done. There are 20k other people on this site that can attest to it, but it isn’t easy.
      Keep up the fight and spend some time here, we’re all in your corner with this quit!
      -JP

      • Damn JP 323 days, closing in on a year fast man. That’s awesome.
        Steve

        • Its went by quick Steve…people say that, but as you close in on it, it really has gone by fast. You’re on your way to the 3rd floor too, keep it up!
          -JP

  16. Thanks for the encouraging word JayP. This is a fight to kill and not to wound. Taking a week or month off from chewing before caving back in is only a minor wound to the enemy and accomplishes nothing. The plan is to kill the enemy so I take that mind set every morning. Kill the Can? sounds good to me.

    • No problem Ben,

      We all want you to successfully beat the habit. You are approaching this quit with a great mind set. And I am not just giving you “coach speak”, I mean it, it “sounds” like you have the right mind to get through this. Keep it up and destroy this enemy.
      Keep us posted, we’re all here to help. I know Jeff was here with me in my first Month, Steve came through later and also successfully made it through the hell that is the first month. Everything is stronger in numbers, you’ve got an army behind you here!
      Keep up your fight!
      -JP

    • Ben how’s it going? Day 8? If you’ve experienced them at all, the night sweats will be gone soon.
      Keep us posted man, hearing about you killing the can keeps us “old” guys going in our quit.
      Steve
      Day two hundred and something

  17. Hey ya’ll! So my boyfriend is trying to quit chew for the umpteenth time, very proud gal here, don’t get me wrong. But he’s also using patches to help him quit, and says how he feels they don’t work. I ask why he doesn’t do the gum, for the oral fixation part, and he says he’s tried and doesn’t like them. So I was wondering if anyone here has used patches and/or gum to help quit chew and have any tips or advice about or why he’s feeling like this?? (He’s too stubborn of a guy to ask for help, but I want to help as much as I can!)

    • Chelsea – the inherrant problem with the nic gum / patches is that they contain nicotine. Until he’s done with the DRUG that he’s addicted to, he won’t truly be able to begin his recoevery.

      If he’s looking for something to help with the oral fixation he’s definitely in luck… there are a SLEW of great products out there just for that containing no nicotine and no tobacco:
      http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/smokeless-alternatives/

      Let us know how we can help!

  18. Hey Steve, I week after today. Man seems like 10 years. If a guy really wants to live longer he could quit and cave every three days. One year of life would be just like 200 years.

  19. I have been reading all of this tonight as I try to psych my weak ass self into quitting. I have been dipping skoal for 35 years. I have never tried to quit and I am scared to death about the thought of it. I think I am to much of a mental midget to be successful after reading all of your post. It really pisses me off to feel so weak! I’m not sure why I posted this? I guess I need more reassurance that it’s possible.

    • SP – we’ll never tell you it’s easy – it’s not. But I can tell you beyond a shadow of a doubt that it’s not only possible, but it’s 100% worth everything you’ll go through to get that freedom. And when you’re free from that master in your back pocket… it’s an amazing feeling.

    • SP
      Just go for it. It’s rough going at first, no joke. Most of the things you read on this site are accurate, but there are good times ahead. I was 25 years and now I’m on day 52 and feeling great.
      Good Luck and Peace
      Franco

    • SP, I also chewed Skoal for 25 years. I know the feeling of separation from the habit. Its almost a “fear” and when you do finally decide to break free, you actually begin to feel some depression/anxiety, which is all a normal part of the quit. If I can do it, I have no doubt what so ever, that you can too. I was dumping a can and a half of that shit a day in mouth! You just have to get pissed at the habit and “KNOW” you are stronger than the chemical, then commit to not wanting to be a slave anymore.
      I sat exactly where you are today, just 325 days ago. And I was scared to actually quit, but I did it. You can too. Come here and talk with us, get yourself some fake shit, seeds, gum….whatever it takes to do the time.
      As Chewie said above, it isn’t easy, I won’t lie, its pure hell the first 30-40 days, but this is where this website can help. But I DO agree, it IS sooo worth it to not be addicted to nicotine anymore.
      I had a dentist appointment this morning and they say that my tissues in my cheeks are finally showing signs of repair. I tore them up doing that shit for so long. My teeth are cleaner, I don’t have to “hide” the signs of tobacco use from my dentist any longer….in short, its FREEDOM!
      It’s possible, we’re all here to help you succeed, get to the getting!
      -JP
      Day #325

      • Couldn’t have been said better than this. Yes, it is indeed a difficult path but the rewards are worth all the shit you’d go through in the first couple of months.

        For me, the first 2 weeks were pure hell. Then it was cruise for the next month and again around 50-70 days was very difficult (pure mind games). I use to come and rant out in this forum. I was thankful to have wonderful buddies in this forum (Rick, DDD, JayP, Steve, Jeff and many others) who helped me. Sometimes when I wsa on day 70 or 80, lot of doubts crept into my mind but to see someone on day 20 fighting with vigor it really adds fuel to your resolve.

        Life is more beautiful without being a slave to a set of damn chemicals

        Shiva

      • Glad to hear you are showing signs of repair JP!! I’ve been twice since quitting, such a great feeling to get a scare-free visit. In fact I avoided the dentist the last three years of my addiction.

    • SP you got this! Do you think it’s easier to quit dip or go thru chemo/radiation? No brainier for me even though i dipped kodiak for 20-25 years.
      The approach that worked for me was to taper off till I was down to one a day (actually felt withdrawals during this time too) then once quit day came it was fake stuff (smokey mountain for me), seeds, gum , jerky and lots of exercise (key for me).
      It’s not easy I had night sweats for 10 days and anxiety off/on for the first 100 days. It all passes man.
      We got your back when YOU are ready to quit.
      Steve
      Day 200 plus

  20. Steve, thanks for checking in on day 8. I’m so screwed up I don’t even know what day it is. I thought it was Tuesday and my wife told me yesterday it was Wed and it was in fact my 8th day. And my 8th day turned out to be the worst day yet for reasons unknown to me. I’m not to savy on how the group thing works, I filled out the info but I don’t know about any roll call. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks again for checking in.
    Ben

    • Hey Ben,

      Sorry to hear the days are tough right now, they will get better as you continue your quit, promise, just hang in there!
      I couldn’t ever figure out Roll Call myself. I used this page right here to communicate with anyone that wanted to listen and talk. To my surprise, there were a lot of people that wanted to talk, right here. I would just post what was going on each day (like you just did) and others would come along and comment as well. Soetimes I would miss a couple days, busy with life and taking out my nicotine (or lack of) aggression on Dry Cleaner store owners…but I made it a point to post here.
      But I could never figure out how to do the roll call, I think there is a video some place (YouTube maybe, help me out Chewie), that helps on instructions on how to do it.
      Personally, I do better with less. I felt strong enough to quit, by just coming to this forum page and talking to the people here. But I do think Roll Call is good for others, it does keep you accountable.
      Anyway, I can’t help you on the Roll Call, as I couldn’t figure it out myself.
      Keep up your quit, you’re doing awesome!
      -JP

        • Thanks Chewie, I must of seen it out here on the blog then. I knew I seen it somewhere.
          Ben….if you want to get familiar with “how to” on Roll Call, hit the link!
          -JP

      • Jayp, Steve, Jeff and numerous other folks.. I am very glad to see you guys still going strong and helping out lot of new comers. Sorry, of late I couldn’t get online as often as I would like to help out with all the things going on with my move out etc..

        Shiva

        • Shiva,

          Always great to see you pop back through. I seen you were going to be absent for a bit with the move and all. Glad to see you pop back in. Hey, if I can just help/motivate, one, just ONE individual on this board to commit and stay quit, I am all for it. I did it and I know these other new comers can. Just takes a little commitment and confidence in yourself and they too can do it like me, you and all the ones before us.
          Take care and its good to see you out here again!
          -JP

        • Shiva, great to hear from you. Where did you end up? Wherever it is I hope all is well. Like JP if I can pay forward the help you guys gave me, it’s all worth it.

    • Hey Ben that happened to me too, eventually you will figure out what day it is. Right now they are all blending into one solid hell day, bottle this feeling up in case you feel like dipping again. I’m not glad you are going thru this but it reminds me how brutal those days were and makes me not want a dip. 99% of the time I have no interest in ever dipping again though.
      I couldn’t figure out roll call either, I tried on either my 2nd or 3rd quit day and got really frustrated so like JP I posted on here and the guys (Rick, Jeff, JP, Shiva, Chewie) were all great.
      Lastly, your wife doesn’t know what you are going thru but she is trying to help if she starts to get on your nerves, walk away,
      Steve
      Day 213

  21. I’m on day 6 and this sucks! I’m 25 years old and started dipping when I was 15. I dipped for 8 years and quit a little less than 2 years ago. I then started up cigarettes and have been doing that on and off. For the last year I have been doing nicotine replacement a lot whether it be gum or patches. For the last 6 months I have done patches during the week and have smoked on the weekends. Im ready to be healthy and nicotine free. Still have a long road ahead of me. I have come to the realization that I will not be able to go out and drink with my friends for about 2 months, which is the majority of the summer. It’s a big sacrifice but it’s only 2 months and it will be worth it. Chewing seeds and gum to help with the urges as well as things to keep my mind busy that I can get lost in like working out and video games.

    • Tyler,
      Congrats on making one of the best decisions of your life. I think the first time I quit was around 22-23. THEN, I made the stupid decision to have “just one”. Well…it took me 17 more years to quit again. Best kick that habit now and never look back. I wish I had stuck with it back then, I am way further into my quit now and if I have a say, I am never going back! Try a few of the fake dips if you are feeling like you are going to break. There as so many great alternatives these days, that I think remaining quit is a lot easier these days than back in the 90’s when I first tried to quit. I think the Oregon Mint Snuff was all that was available back then, and I got to be honest, that is some not so tasty shit. Even the worst tasting fake stuff these days is better than that stuff.
      Yes! Keep busy and stay away from the booze, at least for the first 30 days. The days will begin to fly by, good luck!
      -JP

      • Thank you Jayp for the feed back. I’m on day 13 and staying strong! Will be tested this weekend but not going to give in!

        • Good to hear from you Tyler,
          13 days on the quit, you keep punching away too. You’ll be one month into your quit in a blink of the eye. Weekends are tough, especially if you’re doing the boozing thing. I stayed away from the booze the first week and was tested every, dam time I drank for almost the first 3 months. I always made sure I had my fake chew and sunflower seeds near. Luckily, those salty sunflower seeds go so good with a beer, it wasn’t that tough. But you stay strong and have your tools near if you feel the urge!
          -JP

    • Tyler,

      Working out and video games helps a lot. It helped me personally as well. Like you I was also a dipper + smoker and was in NRT for some time before I realized the only way to truly quit is being completely nic free.

      For the first couple of months, a brisk walk for a couple of miles helped me a lot. It would help to clear the fog at least for the rest of the evening. I know you miss hanging out with friends during summer but the good thing is that you can walk and work out a lot more comfortably now rather if you have quit in winter.

      Shiva

      • Thank you Shiva. This week has been a lot better. Exercising is really helping! Day 13 and staying strong. Another week and I will be in a lot better shape!

  22. hey fellas it’s been a little while. I’ve been busy working playing softball playing in the band and taking care of a little one as well as the wife. and I will tell you the truthit has not always been easy to stay quit. but I have stayed quit and tomorrow will be day 200 for me.I still sometimes have weird thoughts about going back or what it would be like to go back and have a taste but I’m not sure where that’s coming from because I know one taste and I will be back on it for another 7 years. Nicotine is a real mindfuck and I can feel it still there but only the voice is really quiet now.
    Shiva I’m glad you took the time to tell me about Allen Carr. I finally got the PDF of his quit smoking book and there’s a lot of great insight in there.
    Jayp your still rock in man I read your comments quite frequently. You and Jeff are rock solid quitters in my book.
    Steve its awesome your helping out others in this forum I hope to get back to doing that soon.

    Remember , anything your brain suggests about nicotine use is a LIE. You must not listen it is all smoke and mirrors.
    Rick
    Day199

    • Rick, glad to hear from you. I figured you were swamped with the baby. How is fatherhood treating you so far? and holy shit, congrats on 200!! It reminds me what day I’m on.
      Steve
      Day 213

    • Hey Rick!
      Good to hear from you again, you hit the second floor today, congrats! That’s a big feat!!
      Hope all is well in the new family life, I know it gets busy!
      Be good and stay strong-
      JP

    • Hey Rick, glad to hear from you. It was like yesterday when you crossed 100 day mark. now its 200+,. Way to go mate.

  23. Hi my name is Darrell and I just quit Copenhagen averaged 75th hour it’s been hell I’ll start to give me I’m starting to get cravings but I’ve come this far and I saw this site you guys can do it I can do to

  24. Steve, JP,
    Thanks for the info. Less is more for me as well. I wasn’t sure if posting and reading comments was considered alright with how things were set up with the site and didn’t want to offend anybody. Day 10 is waiting outside the door, lets get to it.

    • If you’re trying to quit and need help, I doubt any of us here would be offended. That’s what the blog was put here for (or at least its what it turned into)…support!
      Any way it works for you Ben!
      -JP

  25. Ben
    You are experiencing the “fog” and I totally remember those days. It’s part of your journey to quit the nic bitch. My fog was maybe 30-40 days, I also was enjoying other symptoms, my tongue was numb for a few weeks, I couldn’t taste food for a few weeks, and the night sweats, maybe 7 days. You have made past a week, let’s get to week two!

    Wow. Rick, jayp, shiva, Steve, it’s always good to hear from you guys, I am planning to be here more often, and help any way I can.

    Jeff
    Day 303

  26. Thanks jp

    Steve is 215, Rick rocked 201:) awesome guys!

    Jayp. Your getting close to the magic number, 1 year…

    Shiva…I am not sure your quit number… I am curious ..

    I can tell you this, even at 304 days, I at times still have triggers, of course I will not cave, but I do at times think about it.

    The best part about this site is when helping new quitters, it reminds me of my personal battles during the first few weeks…

    Jeff
    304

  27. I’ve only quit for around 12 hours now but let me say this is ridiculous I feel dizzy kinda irritated (at myself no one else after all this is my fault ) never realized how many triggers I’ve had but I’ve been a heavy dipper for 7 years and is time to quit this disgusting habit thanks everyone for inspiring me to quit and get healthy I’ll post updates to let everyone know how its going

    • That’s the Fog Sean M,
      it’ll hang around for a bit, but you will feel better the further that habit gets in the rear-view mirror. Remember, the reason you feel this way is that your brain is searching every crevices for any left over nicotine residue. When it can no longer find any, it starts getting pissed! Thus, the foggy, dizzy and irritating feelings. The longer you continue to show the brain “who’s boss”, then the faster that temporary feeling will pass. Its a fight, but man, the Freedom you get in the aftermath, is so worth it!
      Keep fighting!
      -JP
      Day #330

  28. Hey guys been reading this for a few hours now Ive been dipping about 10 years now I have quit a few times but very unsuccessful. I am wanting to quit but am curious as to what you mean with “the fog feeling”? I am a policeman and obvious reasons need my head right at all times. And advise would be greatly appreciated.

    • Here’s an article about The Fog: http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/the-fog-of-quitting-dip/ Essentially, you’ll just feel “off” for a while. The good news is it gets better. Drink lots of water to flush your system.

    • It’s a slight dizzy feeling nothing too bad that would even get in the line of duty I find chewing gum helps with it a little

    • The fog for me wasn’t as bad as it was for others but I had other awful withdrawal symptoms. It’s bascially like a bad head cold and you can’t think straight. It passes man, drink lots of water and work out. Also smokey mountain really helped me out a lot in the early days, I was a kodiak user and I liked this one the best out of the fake stuff that I tried.
      If you do find it interfering with work, can you take a day or two off?
      Quitting is worth the fog and all the other bullshit!!!
      Steve
      Day 219 or 220

  29. 6th day today for me since I was off chewing, having gas and on-off belching. Is it normal ??

  30. Mayank
    The first week or so, I had some of the same issues.
    Hang in there, many changes are ahead of you, I believe all for the best. I quit last august, and I feel better each and every day! It’s tough, but you have allot of support here, post as often as you can, let us know if you have any other question, we are in this fight with you

    Jeff
    Day 307

  31. Hi Jeff, Now that you asked me I realized crossed 1 yr mark 9 days back (Jun 1st) :).

    I completely agree with what you said. Even now once in a while I get the craves (mostly like wish) but am in complete control. The occasional crave is mostly like a food crave but something that goes away in a min or two.

    • That’s exactly how it is for me these days Shiva. I certainly do not “crave” the chew anymore, I still have the oral fixation though. It gets relieved with sunflower seeds and the occasional Fake Triumph chew. And the Triumph is down to 1-2 dips a day now. It’s 10:36 am here in Michigan and I haven’t had a fake chew this morning. In fact, even talking about it, does not even make me want to pop one in. I will be golfing tonight, so I can see myself having one then.
      Things certainly have slowed down, in my mind now, I am wrestling with the idea on NOT buying fake stuff anymore. I know I can certainly do with out this far. BUT…if the crave does come along, I want to be sure I have a fake one near…just so I can have one if I “really” want it. But they certainly, are no longer necessary.

      Any one else reading this, that is considering a quit, just do it! I mean…I was nailing a can and a half of Skoal Wintergreen Long Cut a day! My habit lasted 25 years….if I can do it, you sure as hell can ditch the habit too. It’s tough, and takes some balls, not going to lie, but I promise you’ll be happier without that shit in your life. Be brave and dare to be great! (11:27am now and still no fake dip….see how it works?)
      -JP
      Day #331

      • JP I run hot and cold with the fake stuff, I can go weeks without having it but then I’ll have one dip a day for a couple of weeks. Honestly just try to go a couple days without it and you’ll be fine. You’re not addicted to it you enjoy it big difference, it’s like popcorn if it were around every night you’d eat it but when it’s not around you’re fine. Having one around in case you really need it is definitely smart though even if you never use it just knowin it’s there is helpful.
        Steve

        • Hey Steve,
          Definitely why I think I should have some around the house. I often just forget about it these days. You’re spot on about it, I’m not addicted to it, just “enjoy” it. Love your popcorn example…I love that shit too!
          Do all you guys know, I still have, up in the cupboard with my fake stuff, the last can of Skoal I purchased on July 15th 2014? Still sitting up there…I crack it once in a while and look inside, the smell alone is just terrible! I never have an urge to take one out of it. And it only had one taken out of it originally. I kept it, because it has reminded me of the look on the guys face I purchased it from. He KNEW when I was quitting and when I went to go see him, he had a smirk on his face…like “You’ll never quit”. It has been some motivation for me to have it around. Not once had I looked at it and thought “man I would like to take one of those”…not ONCE! Like I said, if I want a dip, there are many other, good, fake alternatives out there. I plan on having some sort of personal ceremony with that can at the year mark coming up. Maybe go to the tobacco shop and stuff it up the dudes ass who sold it to me? LOL, J/K.
          Great to see all the new faces out here and the vets helping out. You guys will never know how much I appreciate your help!
          -JP
          Day #332

          • JP,
            That’s fantastic, I have a pinch of kodiak that I smell to remind me how awful that shit is. I’m at the point where I can’t believe I ever did that shit.
            I like my routine and now that it’s out of my routine, I’m good.
            Shiva,
            Congrats on 1 year, hope all is well.
            Mayank,
            8 days is fucking awesome, those are the worst days. Still rough for a couple of months but definitely gets better.
            Steve
            Day 200 and something

  32. Congrats shiva! Over a year!
    Jeff
    Day 309

  33. Thanks Jeff, It feels good without an alien object in my mouth. I have started jogging in morning to pump more oxygen inside. Sometime feels a tinge around spectrum area, rest seems good. On my 8th day since going cold turkey.

    • Great Job Mayank!
      8 days of freedom is awesome….you keep punching away. Running definitely helped me out too, though when I was running the “fog” made me a bit dizzy. It all passed around the 30-40 day mark. But your toughest time…is right now, those first few days then the week that follows. Keep coming here and talking/venting/ we’re all here to help!
      -JP

  34. Thanks JP for extending the shoulder.

    This place is actually making me cope it better. Jogging and drinking lot of water are two others. The fog was an issue for first three -four days, haven’t experienced any in last 3-4 days though. On-off acidity is the only thing bothering me, but I can live with that considering what I have been living with for past 15 years.

    9th Day today.

    • No Problem Daniel,
      Keep it up, you’ll be on top of a month shortly! Glad to hear the fog isn’t beating you down so bad.
      Stomach Acid….I had it real bad when I dipped. After I quit, I started getting on Prilosec. I take it once a day and I don’t deal with that shit anymore. I think dipping messes your esophagus and stomach all up. Small grains get down there and just SMOKE you out. I see you can but Prilosec over the counter (OTC) now too. If it persist, maybe you can look for some relief there.
      Keep up your good work!
      -JP

    • Keep it up Daniel you are doing great.
      For your acid reflux start with Zantac not with Prilosec, I can explain the difference of interested. One is an acid reducer while the other is a proton pump inhibitor. I had really bad reflux had to get a tube snaked down my throat to check shit out, they put me on omeprazole which I had the rare bad reaction to. PPI’s have been shown to mess with your heart as well, they bascially turn off acid production but for bad reflux like my mom it’s worth the risk. Zantac should be your first step if that doesn’t work talk to your Dr or change your diet like I did. But changing your diet should be down the road not day 9, you got enought going on.
      Steve
      Day 200 and something

      • Hey Steve,
        I just caught up with this post. You had a bad experience with Prilosec?? I have been on it for a while and it doesn’t bug me at all. In fact, if I stop taking it for about a week, my reflux kicks into high gear! I never heard or read anything about the heart issues associated with Prilosec. If you have something you found out there, send it my way.
        I have tried Zantac before and it really AMPED up my acid when I did it. Here I was trying to put the fire out, NOT stoke it up! But I might be interested in something else if studies are showing some kind of relationship between heart problems and Prilosec. I know we’re not doctors out here (at least I am not), so I won’t hold your feet to the fire on any opinions, but I am into research on stuff, especially medications I take! Let me know, thanks!
        -JP

        • JayP,
          I’m far from a doctor as well but do like to read up on stuff. I usually treat it as nice to know and listen to my actual doctors advice. Check this link out, if it doesn’t work Google proton pump inhibitors and heart problems. Prilosec is a PPI.
          Steve
          http://www.news-medical.net/news/20150611/Proton-pump-inhibitors-linked-to-increased-risk-of-heart-attack.aspx

        • JayP,

          Zantac is the JV medicine for acid reflux but usually the first place a doctor will have you start. Thinking about it before I changed my diet, for some reason zinc drops helped me out more than Zantac. I have no research or anything on zinc being effective but for some reason it worked for me and actually my mom….weird!! Noticed by mistake when I had a cold.
          Steve

          • Interesting read Steve, thanks for sending that my way. I am with you, I do research more for “FYI”. I never knew any of that was out there about Prilosec and Heart problems. I certainly will be talking to the doctor at my next visit (July 21st.)
            I will also look into the “Zinc drops” you speak of. Seems a more natural way of taking care of an issue. And if thee is a natural healer, I am all about it, thanks again!

  35. I was thinking today when was the last time I had a dip of smokey mountain: it was last October, about two and a half months into my quit. I can honestly say, I don’t even think of it anymore. I also agree with Steve, I cannot believe I chewed for so long, I look at a friend of mine with his chew of Copenhagen, and wow. How ugly is that! Yet I did it for years, even at times in a profession setting, thinking no one can see the dip.

    Chewing sucks in many levels no doubt, but the actual site if that shit in someone s mouth is flat out wrong.

    Jeff
    311

  36. Hi my name is Michael I’m 21 now I’ve been dipping seance I was 12 or 13. This is my first day without a dip and it’s been tough I’m trying my hardest. I learned by throwing away all the dip can and spit bottles I had in the house made it little easier but I have went to the store twice today and see the tobacco behind the counter makes me want it even more so I just hurry up and get out will have to worry about this long because I hate not being able to take my daughter into the store and I see the tobacco and wanting to get out real fast so I don’t buy any.

    • Michael,

      How are you holding up? Have you been able to avoid that store at all? It’s certainly not easy to go in there. I posted something to you yesterday but my phone is hit or miss in the morning.

      Hope you’re going strong man
      Steve

  37. Hey everyone. My name is Arun.I’m 27 now.I have been chewing since last 10 years or so.
    Today is my Day 1. And, this is my first & last resolution to quit.
    I hope, i can control my cravings & emotions and get through the tricky stage.

    Need all your help & support.
    Doing this for my kid.
    Cheers.

    Hope to see a nicotine-free self & wish the same for everyone.
    Godspeed.

    • ARUN,

      You have the right attitude, it’s going to be rough for a little bit. If you feel like you’re about to take things out on your kid, walk away it’s not their fault you started this awful habit. Get yourself some fake chew, I like smokey mountain, sunflower seeds, gum, drink lots of water and most successful quitters have some form of exercise daily. Anything to help with the oral part of the equation because for a few days the nicotine part is going to be plenty to handle.
      Good luck, keep us posted and post away any questions, rants, bitching, etc. that’s why this site is here.
      Steve
      226

  38. Hi Jayp & Steve,

    Its day 14 for me today. The fog no longer seems to be there. Having bit of acidity for past couple of days. I hope this is normal.

    I am devoting myself to morning jogging sessions and lot of reading to avoid the craving demons.

  39. Yes my whole right side of my mouth hurts if I dnt chew for 4-6 hrs good luck an May god be with all of u

  40. Hey Steve,
    Well,it’s Day 2 .. Almost 48 hours…
    Well, apart from the occasional cravings ,there has not been any other problem(yet).

    Well,i have been exercising for the last 11-12 years. So,it’s still continuing.
    I think i know my trigger points,so before all the crazy mood swings start, i hit the pool or start studying or gardening & stuff.

    I’m trying to avoid any chew-able stuff (nicotine or not) , because, i guess it might trigger my weakness for the can again. ( Personal view)

    Although,there’s a mild halitosis. (for which,Listerine is coming handy since yesterday).Has anyone experienced it before?

    Let’s see,how it goes.I’ve decided,this is it.I ain’t gonna chew/smoke/drink ever,ever in my life again.
    Hope to hit the milestone,enduring the journey with you guys.And have a new me.

    Regards,
    Arun.

  41. Arun, whatever works. I’m tackling day 21 today. Sunflower seeds and Atomic Fireball jawbreakers really helped me. The hot cinnamon seemed to help with the crave and it also covers bad breath. Good Luck
    Ben

  42. Day 15, going strong. Cravings mostly during evenings.. apart from that everything manageable.

  43. Keep up the fight Mayank, you’re half way to 1 month of freedom, you’re doing awesome. Same to you Ben, 1 week away for you, your focus is on par as well. I too love those dam sunflower seeds, I actually prefer them over the fake dip anymore.
    Whatever works to keep you off the dam tobacco! Keep it up guys, we’re all pulling for you here!
    -JP

    • Good work Arun and Mayank, keep up the fight.
      Arun you’re doing great and only a few days awAy from seeing a drastic improvement in your symptoms. Mayank would you agree?
      You guys are both pretty laid back, my day 4-20 posts probably consisted of me bitching about my fiancé and growling at people on the train. Now I just growl and ignore her.
      Steve

  44. Yes Steve, I agree to it completely. Day 17 and I am feeling hell lot of better. The mornings are full of promises and evenings were never better.
    @Steve not laidback, at work, I did Shouted and felt agitated with my team members for first 10 days but now I have devised a way to stay calm. Drinking 2-3 litres mild warm water everyday. Though I am pissing off more due to more water, but it is anytime better than spitting throughout the day.

  45. Hello I’m quitting today on Father’s Day. Been better than 15 years dipping. Wish me luck

  46. on 20th day mark. The acidity and gas has been back for past 2-3 days. Rest seems in control. I am sure that I will get this pass too.. This place has helped a lot.

  47. Day 21, Going great. Every new day comes with less cravings.

    • Great Work Mayank!
      3 weeks in to the quit, AWESOME! 1 week away from the first month. Time will fly by, you’ll be at the 100 day mark and beyond before you realize it. Less cravings and fog will continue the further you get away from the habit. Its all a faint whistle across a deep canyon for me these days.
      Keep up the good work and keep us posted, you’ve got this!
      -JP
      Day #344

  48. Two days without. Been a user for over 20 years a can a day. Started with Copenhagen and now or I should say was on Grizzly fine cut. It’s terrible . I’m pissed, mad, life sucks lol. I chew smokey mountain crap and it sucks I threw it away. I’m ready to get this freaking out mad stage over with.

  49. Thanks JayP. Day 22 today. I can bear anything now, the resolution to keep the shit out of mouth has become firmer.
    @Tim me too have been using it for close to 20 years. Hang on buddy, get over the first week. Things will start falling in place after that gradually.

  50. Has anyone ever went from a can a day to just one dip a day? Does that help as far as health? Or do you just cause yourself to start over each time . It’s so hard I dipped a can a day for over 20 years . I do ok for a day or so then break down and have a dip. I guess a dip a day is better than a whole can a day I dunno. Really want to just be done with it all. But I get so dang irritated and mean without it etc.. Ugggg

    • I think it’s fair to say that 1 dip per day is better than 1 can per day. But as you point out, you’re essentially putting yourself into and through withdrawals one day at a time and then starting over. Put it down, leave it down. You CAN do this.

    • Hey Tim,
      I definitely cut wayyy back before I quit. I was nailing a can and a half a day with my habit of 25 years. But when it came time to quit, I quit. I switched to Smokey Mountain/Sunflower Seeds and started the healing process. Yeah, Smokey Mountain does taste like shit when you first quit (too sweet IMO), I would say Tobacco smells a hell of lot worse these days though!
      Tapering off is probably a good idea, but when you want to quit, quit means quit. You just have to train the brain “Copenhagen doesn’t exist anymore, I have to find another way”. I used Smokey Mountain, but thanks to this blog, I found SEVERAL “other” fake alternatives, that in my opinion, are MUCH better than Smokey Mountain. I think of my self these days as a “Fake Dip Expert”, lol! Seriously though, I have tried almost every single one of them. I would suggest Elicit for Cope Users. NOT because it tastes the same (I was a Skoal guy, but dabbled w/Cope during my 25 year habit), but the very fine cut of Cope, matches what Elicit offers. The taste of Smokey Mountain Straight/Classic reminds me of the “taste” of Cope. Again, NOT EXACTLY, nothing will replace the real stuff. They are all just tools to help get you away from the nicotine. I always fail to mention, Elicit (and others) sells there stuff w/and without nicotine. Obviously, I DO NOT use the nicotine versions, this old addict is DONE with all that BS! I am a fan of Triumph, but this is the one I chose to be my “go-to” when I feel like dipping, which is down to 1 dip a day now (before bed).
      I wish you all the luck and support you on your decision to quit Tim, take care and keep us posted on your progress!
      -JP
      Day #346

  51. Day 25, still trucking. Way to tired all the time still and going to bed early. Probably didn’t help going cold turkey on tobacco and caffeine at the same time. Still irritable and getting angry easily. Went to the dentist, still have good teeth but now good gums. Took a oral cancer screen , free and clear still. Also punched my friend in the face, kinda snapped after he offered me a dip with the can open up to my face. Couldn’t help it and throw his can into the river.

    Good times.

  52. Day 24. hanging on.

  53. Thanks JP. For Sure I will.

  54. Good morning, this is day 4 for me, for five years I have been dipping skoal pouches. Reading the post is helpful. Thanks

    • QUITNOW,
      How you hanging in there? You should be at almost 10 days now based on when you posted, you still solid?
      -JP

  55. Just got quoted for life insurance as a chewer of 15 years. That’s enough motivation in itself to quit, among the other things! Going to try quitting cold turkey today…

  56. 26 years of dipping with 30-60 days quits sprinkled in throughout. I am not your typical dipper, no one ever knew I had a skoal pouch in and I would pretty much kill a can a day. Now, I’m 44, have gotten into great shape because I watch what I eat, drink and workout regularly and have family and friends that look at a healthy guy put tobacco and carcinogens in his mouth – they all say WTF, why do you do that to yourself and I wonder the samething! I am not invincible and cancer is rich in my families history. Finally, I am adamant about quitting and going cold turkey to kick the addiction. So far, feel irritiiable and tired and throwing in dentyne Ice between cheek and gum to satisfy sensation. It’s not a dip but it will work!!! Good to use this board to read others insights and share my own struggles.
    Good luck to all – God’s will and strength to each of you.

    • Hey Russ,
      I used to get the exact same reaction, I called it the kodiak rewards program. Go to the gym, have a dip, eat a salad have a dip, you get the point….it was pretty friggin stupid. I found that focusing harder on those good habits that you already have will help with the quit. I used to do burpees or push-ups during a crave till it passed.
      I loved smokey mountain for the first month as well, I still use it from time to time but my cravings for the real deal are long gone. If I can do it then you can do it, you just have to want it bad enough to do it.
      Steve

  57. 24 hours in. I have chewed half a can of Smoky Mountain mint pouches and a large bag of sunflower seeds. Definitely feeling tired after not sleeping well last night and not looking forward to what tonight brings!

  58. It’s hard and it sucks. BUT it’s a mind game. I’m couple weeks in and not getting easier. At the same time after the first few days I think I’m ok. It’s the cravings and the habit of wanting a dip after I eat or work outside etc. I’ve got this!!!! WE got this!!! Who needs that nasty worm dirt looking shit. Grab a can of herb snuff and dip away.

  59. It’s crazy to realize how much this shit has controlled my life without me knowing it. I’ll be off work in an hour or so and I’m just sitting here thinking of things to do at home to occupy myself so I don’t think about a dip.

    • Hey this sucks
      Try hitting the gym or going for a walk anything to break up your old normal routine with dip. If you are used to going home sitting on the couch packing a dip you will be torturing yourself in that position.
      Are you using any fake dip? Seeds? Jerky? Make sure you are drinking plenty of water, keep this quit man it won’t get easier the next time you try.
      Steve
      Day 220-something

      • Steve – I think you’re spot on about finding something to break up my usual routine cuz usually I’d come home and eat then sit in my chair with a dip. I bought a can of fake dip yesterday and I eat seeds often anyways so have continued with that. So far the fake dip seems to be doing a decent job. Just wonder what my cravings will be like in another day or two once the nicotine is all out of me. I think I got this though!!

        • This Sucks, I’m on day 125, using fake dip, seeds, & Skittles to get me by. Weening myself off the fake dip now. Try Teaza pouches if you haven’t yet, they’re very good. Keep up the quit my man.

          • Dan – I’ll have to try out the Teaza. That’s a new one I haven’t heard. It’s just a mind game at this point. As long as I have something that feels like a dip I’m in good shape. Eventually quitting the fake dip might prove to be difficult as well! Keep on keepin on Joe Dirt

        • This sucks, don’t worry about quitting the fake stuff till you’re ready and when you are I’m sure it will be a lot easier. I still have smokey mountain when I want it, 2-3 pinches a week at this point no interest in the real thing anymore….I can’t even stand the smell of kodiak, I’m amazed I did it for so long.
          Steve
          Day 243 (just realized its been 8 months)

          • Steve – congrats on the 8 months! I just passed the first 72 hours of hell yesterday. I had a smokey mountain dip first thing this morning just to get it out of the way more than anything. I’m too damn nauseous to even think about the real thing so thankfully that doesn’t even sound good. Gonna be a tough day today with a golf tournament and being outside all day. If I can get through today, every other day here on out should be a breeze!!

  60. It has been 16 full days in 2 hours and 10 minutes since my last dip (quit cold turkey). I am gearing up for a 19 hours of driving for a vacation. This has always been one of my biggest triggers and I do not think seeds will satisfy that trigger. Any advice that anyone may have would be greatly appreciated.

    • Hey Cubby – if you haven’t yet, I’d urge you to join our forum at http://forum.killthecan.org/ – we’ve got nearly 24,000 members that “get it” because we’ve all been there before. Also, for that vacation, make sure you’ve got something else to keep you occupied: fake dip, beef jerky, gum, sunflower seeds, etc. Hang in there man!!!

    • Cubby are you going with other dippers or people that you usually dip around?
      I would remember the 19 days you’ve been thru and not wanting to go back thru that.
      Right before a vacation is a tough time to quit, no time is easy but that’s an added wrinkle man best of luck.
      I used fake stuff, seeds, jerky, fruit and lots of water and exercise(which isn’t easy in a car for 19 hours)
      Steve
      Day 243

  61. Cubby, I use the “atomic fireballs” when I’m driving which is an appropriate name for anybody with the courage to quit. They are super hot cinnamon jawbreakers and the pain of the hot cinnamon on my tongue helps until the worst part of the crave is over. I’m 37 days down the road from a 35 year cope habit. Its a lot easier now than it was at day 16, hang in there and I’ll do the same.
    Ben

  62. Lots of new posters here, I am impressed!
    Big High-5 to you Steve, for taking the time to respond to the newcomers!
    Mayank, hope you are still solid in your quit, you are approaching that 30 day mark, keep pushing!
    Russ, ThisSucks & Cubby, welcome! It takes a lot of courage to un-hitch the tobacco wagon and live free from the chemicals. Reading your posts brings me back (as it does others here I assume) to when I began my quit. It really is tough, I feel all your pain out here folks, I mean that with every ounce of my existence. I made a promise that I would try to help anyone wanting to get away from this terrible addiction. I will not judge anyone with the habit, but if they want help, advice, I am willing to help anyone!
    I see Tim posted he is in a couple weeks and it isn’t getting much easier, but then resorted back to what day 1-3 was…there is a difference! I can attest things do get easier after the first 30 days. For me, it really started showing up in the 40-60 day range and got much better (although I still had the occasional thought of going back) at the 100 day mark. Hang in there, there is sunshine after the storm!
    Anything you can get your hands on, be it Fake Herbal Chew, Sunflower Seeds, Gum, Jerky…I see Ben uses Atomic Fireballs (Never thought of those), to keep you away from the tobacco and closer to the 40-60 day mark, will help you succeed in the quit. Its hell, but SO WELL WORTH IT TO BE FREE!
    Those of you almost through the “Dirty 30″, Keep grinding!
    And I will try to help all the newcomers, you are all welcome here!
    Keep up the fight!
    -JP
    Day #352

    • Thank you all for the advice. I am going to try the atomic fireball. That sounds like it is a great substitute. That skittles and seeds is what I will have for the car ride. I actually quit for 8 months, 3 years ago, but broke down on a 20 hour car ride to spring break. I got talked into that 1 tin wouldn’t draw me back in, but it did. I haven’t been able to stop for 30 days since. I remember the first 100 days though. Very tough and plenty of nights with no sleep, cold sweats, and the dip dreams. Hopefully, I do not give into this temptress on the vacation and can report back in 10 days with with good news. That would put me at day 28, and almost over the 30 day hump.

      • Hey Cubby,

        I fell to the “only one dip” offer myself. It took almost 17-18 years more, to finally get back to quitting. I kick myself for “thinking” one dip won’t hurt, but I also learned a very valuable lesson…THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS ONE DIP. I know this now and as much as “I think” I am strong enough to have just one, and remain quit, I am not…I am an addict.
        The good thing about today, as opposed to back in the mid-90’s when I quit, is there are so many GREAT alternatives to smokeless tobacco. I was only aware of one, before I found this site, that was Mint Snuff. And let me be clear, if that still was the only one available today, I probably would of had a much harder time quitting…that stuff isn’t any better today, than it was back then.
        The many alternatives available, coupled with the support this blog offers, has made my quit successful 10-fold. I don’t ever plan to have “just one” ever again and I strongly feel, I will never return to that old habit.
        You can get there too again and now you know…there’s no such thing as one. I get it, Spring Break, beaches, partying…tough time to stay true. But we all need to dig a little deeper during these times. Or, do what a poster said he did above, punch the person offering you a dip in the face! LOL!
        Take care and good luck on your journey.
        -JP

    • JP almost to a year, what is your exact date? That’s awesome man!! I wonder how Rick and Shiva are doing, you guys were huge for my quit!
      Steve
      8 months today!!!

  63. Day 2 and it sucks! Chewed Copenhagen since I was 12 (50 now). My younger brother chews and they found a growth in his throat. I committed to quitting with him and supporting him. Was in and out of delirium all day yesterday and fell asleep at 7:00 pm and didn’t wake up until 5:30 am…I felt so frickken exhausted.
    Thanks all for sharing…

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