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  1. 36 Hours dip free. 1st time in over 10 years I went an entire day without at least one dip. The Oregon Mint Snuff Pouches are helping a lot, they don’t taste quite right, but having that pouch in my lip is helping a ton. I’m envious of the others who are past the hardest part, and want to get there. I’m glad I found this site, as it helps inspire me and know I’m not alone. God Bless

    • Well done Mike – you’re definitely not alone. You’re on your way!!!

      • In my last post I forgot to note how much money I have saved…$1302.00
        So, my wife bought me a house full of strippers for my birthday with that money. As long as I didn’t get titty-itus it was money well saved by not dipping.!!

    • So Mike, how are you doing buddy? Please tell us! I am a ex dipper (215+ Days) I have quit this nasty shit and I will be happy to help you only if you are ready.

      Set an example for your family and friends. If you are tough act like it….

      • I’m still hanging in there. This is my 5th day without a dip, and it fuckin sux… I was hoping it would be easier after the first 72 hours, but I’m feeling cravings more now. Luckily I bought 3 tins of the fake stuff (nicotine and tobacco free) and I just fool myself by spitting in bottle just like its the real thing. Congrats on quitting and thanks for asking Tuck and Chewie.

      • I need to ask when do you start to feel better. I feel so lightheaded and like I’m missing something. Been 51 days off the nasty

        • Hang in there my man… it takes some time. I know you’d like to feel 100% better now, but it’s unfortunately a process. For me, it was a good 70-80 days before I started to feel better, then I got slammed with the mid 80’s funk for another 10 days or so. It DOES get better… keep fighting!

          • That is crazy…I have had a few really good days, after I thought I was done with the fog, and then bam! out of nowhere, another day of “symptoms” today. It sucks. But I think it is totally worth it. Saw a great interview today on ESPN with Curt Shilling describing the pain of cancer treatment on his throat. I’ll take the fog any day over what he described. Hang in there OLDE SMOKE…to hell with tobacco!

          • Chewie is right! I’m on day 79 and I’m back here chewing sugar free gum like crazy. I dipped original skoal for 35 years and I know how hard it is but hang in there and get help when you need it. Do not give in to the beast. Let me know if I can help.

        • For me it was around 90 or 100 days when the dip fog wore off. Hang in there. Things get easier.

          J 485

    • Awesome. Keep up the good work.

    • Stick with it man. Its definitely worth it. 77 days free myself. Hardest thing I’ve ever done. You do fine.

    • 8 Days dip free!! Feeling pretty good and just throw in a fake pouch when the cravings hit, also been snacking a lot… I’ll take a few extra pounds to get rid of the chew. Cutting back a week prior to my quit date really helped, and I feel like the worst is behind me already! If you can get past the first week, you can do it!!! Good luck to everyone else struggling through quitting.

    • It’s always gonna be hard just keep your chin up

    • I have had many unsuccessful quits… the cravings kill me, how do you guys kill cravings?

      • Nicorette gum helps a lot . I use the Smokey Mountain herb snuff and the gum . Working for me . A lot of regular gum also

        • I quit for ten years and then started back several years ago (What a dumb ass) I know how hard it is to quit and not looking forward to it but I am tired of being a slave. I am going with th Nicorette and Smokey Mountain. The Nicorette was a life saver the first time I quit.

          • Welcome back – though I have to say the nic gum probably isn’t the best course of action. It “works” to take the edge off because it contains nicotine. Get rid of it and you can TRULY start your recovery. After all… you said that Nicorette was a life saver the first time you quit. But the fact that you started again means it wasn’t all that successful no? Let me know how I can help!

    • Mike, I was up after a fight with my wife about quitting and I found this site and read your post. I took the dip out of my mouth and threw it away. I am now 36hrs without a dip. Also the first time in years I have gone this far.

      Thanks and hang in there.

    • Hey everyone new guy to the page ive been chewing sence 10 and now im 23 and I cant do this nasty shi* my whole life any tips on how to get started any help would be nice thanks

    • I’m on day 4. starting to fill the triggers. I’ve dipped for 24 years. Keep fighting

    • I am going to stop dip starting now. Seeing posts like this will help me through it.

    • 112 Days Copenhagen free. Randomly use the fake stuff. Going to dentist for first time in about 4 years. Won’t lie am pretty nervous but need to just get it over with. Even after 112 days I still think about chewing every day but the anticipation and
      Anxiety over the dentist keeps reminding me why I would be dumb to start back up plus I would hate to start my timer back to zero.

  2. Hello. I am 28 days dip free today. I however have smoked a few cigarettes. I have done good this week however it just seems to be a an uphill struggle.

    I have used dip more than half my life. I decided it was time to quit as my son turned 1 and the news of Curt Shillings cancer was being talked about on ESPN. My wife has never asked me to stop until I mentioned it and she took the lead. I have the best wife ever.

    As I read the stories on this site and a few others, I now realize this is a process that a man needs help with in order to succeed. I will continue to check in daily and post progress reports, gpod and bad. Thanks in advance for the support.

  3. Hope everyone is doing good this holiday weekend. My name is Jay and I have dipped for over half my life. I threw my can away on August 3, 2014. This has been a very tough month. My wife found this site and I have done a lot of reading on here and I must say I never really took the time to educate myself about what I was putting in my body.

    I am looking for support a this time. In the future I WILL be the guy lending support to others. I have remained dip free as of now. I will admit I have smoked a few cigarettes to help ease the withdrawal. I know it is more mental at this stage but that’s where I’m having the most trouble. Looking for advice and guidance.

    On a positive note, my gums already feel better and I am not getting the hint of blood anymore when I brush my teeth.

    • Welcome aboard Jay! If you’re looking for support, check out our forum at http://forum.killthecan.org where we’ve got over 20,000 members that “get it” cause we’ve all been right where you are!

      • I got the physical part beat, its the mental I’m having trouble with. I’m 30 days dip free today. The fake stuff is helping a bunch however I still find myself bumming a cigarette or 2 at work. I have never even liked smoking. Any suggestions on how to overcome this mental hurdle?

        • Jay, congrats on making it 30 days without dip. I just hit 70 days myself. For the past few years I went back and forth between different forms of tobacco — smoked cigarettes first, then cigars, then dip, then cigarettes again, etc. Anyways, the point is when you’re smoking cigarettes you’re still getting the nicotine fix, so although you’re not dipping anymore (and serious props — I know how hard it is), you’re still putting nicotine in your body so you’re postponing the nicotine withdrawal.

          If it helps you for now, that’s all right — but be careful. When you go all in and stop bumming the cigarettes, your first reaction will probably be to reach for the dip again, and it will be tough to fight.

          Keep us posted

          • After soon tough love from my family, I can honesty say im a week free off nicotine. Luckily I didn’t smoke enough cigarettes to cause me to go through the first ,72 hours again. Its a long fight, but im ready to take it head on.

  4. I’m in day 10 dip-free after 40+ years of snuff use. Hasn’t been terrible, but last 2 days have had little appetite, and upset stomach. Normal?

  5. First day without a chew . Already feel a head ache coming on . Glad I found this page to help ease the pain a bit

    • I took over the counter migraine medicine and drank lots of water. The headaches and nausea were horrible for me.

      Feel better and hang in there.

  6. Ok here I go again! I had quit for about 3 years when before I knew it the stress of a dead end job and people at that job worked my last nerve, on that particular morning something triggered a panic attack as I was leaving to go on a job and before I knew it I was at the counter asking for a good ole can of Grizzly Mint…….I was like a kid on Christmas when I got back into my work truck all excited rubbing my hands together and then poof!!!!!! here I am about 5 years later trying to do it all over again….. I did quit for about 4 days a couple weeks ago but was having the normal withdrawals (walking around all foggy, loss of concentration) the normal stuff, so I convinced myself that I quit the wrong way and I should ween myself off slowly, so I’d buy a can and throw half away…… well as embarrassed as I am to say but as I’m writing this I have a lip full! I’m getting ready to buy some Smokey Mountain and am convinced this time will be the last!! Wish me luck guys and now that there’s a place to express myself you’ll be hearing from me……..ALOT!!!

    • James, keep visiting this site daily. You can do it. The fog will go away, the withdrawal symptoms will subside, then its all mental. That where I’m struggling the most. With everyone’s help, we can all get through this. I will send you my phone number if that will help.

    • Hang in there and try your hardest. It’s not easy. I’m 7 weeks off the stuff and still having a tuff time. It’s like loosing your best friend

    • I was a one to two can a day skoal (or Cope) straight long cut user. I smoked too. Relapse is part of many of our stories.

      I still use Smokey Mountain and is has been a life saver for me. Do what ever it takes. I used smokey mountain and nicotine lozenges at the same time. That worked like a charm.

      Hang in there. You’ll Make it this time.

    • Hey james, try mixxing that grizzly half and half with Smokey mountain for bout a week,then go 3/4 to 1/4 mix, I’ve been off snuff 90 days and that’s how I did it

  7. Sorry about the long rant from my other post……

    • Rant away my man – that’s why we’re here. Welcome aboard!

    • James-that’s what this place is for. We all have failed and tried again…rant away if it helps. We all have stress in our lives and know how you feel. When I’m stressed now I just pull out my “tin” of sugar free gum. I keep it with me 100% of the time. Day 79 and I tell anyone who will listen how hard it is and how proud I am!!

  8. 3 years a tinman nic gum here and there patches too. the real kicker is my coworkers telling me thats adisgusting habit while there blowing out smoke at breaktimes pissed me off more and more each day tried to quit again last week and the aggression got the best of me and blew out my rotocuff seeing doctor today about chantix. ps lost three teeth in the process. who said chewing is for wimps?

  9. Waiting on the arrival of my Wintergreen Smokey Mountain….Grrrrrr!!!!

  10. Quitting this drug is not easy I’ve been chewing Skoal apple since 2008 and replaced it with Skoal crisp 3 years ago to save money. Its unbelievable the hold it has had over me in the past 6 years biggest trigger definitely is work. But I pretty much chewed every where all the time. I didn’t think about the health risks until my wife showed me mouth cancer pictures. Since then(8months ago) I’ve had tons of anxiety. Anxiety about chewing. Not chewing. Watching someone else chew. How could they put that shit in their mouth all day and not care or worry about the health problems? I hate tobacco so much! It literally changed my brain chemistry to want it constantly all the time but today is the day its been 14 hours since my last chew I just out my wife is expecting our first child. And after reading stuff on this site I don’t wanna put the child through Any of it and I wanna be around for it. I don’t need this stuff its just my brain trying to trick me! I’m tired of failing! I will conquer! . PS( thanks for this website its such an inspiration I wanted to write a comment for months and finally got the courage today on my lunch break instead of getting another can at the convenience store!)

  11. 349 days today

  12. I started when I was 13 years old and on NOV 30 my son will be 13 . SO 349 days today I quite after 24 years of dipping . I did it cold turkey and not everyone can but for me it worked .GOOD LUCK TO EVERYONE AND STAY STRONG

    • Congrats dude! I’m having trouble making it to 24 hours! I wish tobacco wasn’t so accessible :(

      • Well I failed last night bought a can had a chew.spit it out Threw it away I’m not giving up! Day 1

        • Still staying strong. Almost 24 hours but I’m determined . Ive tried to quit about 20 times in the last 8 months and I went back to Skoal each time, always increasing the intake after each attempt.
          but this time is for real tobacco is not a game its not a toy and I’m too young (31) to be worrying about stupid shit like squamous cell carcinoma to anybody reading out there commenting on this site really helps. It keeps ME accountable. Good luck everybody I feel your pain

          • Rick. It’s ok. The cravings are terrible. My wife and kids- yea I’ve got 3 all said I was terrible to live with and almost wished I had kept dipping. I turned into a bear and bit their heads off routinely. Anyway I decided to get a crutch this time to help me with the withdrawal. I know everyone says COLD TURKEY is the best, but obviously I couldn’t handle CT, so I went down to walmart in the middle of the night and bought a 100 pack of nic gum 4mg strength. I did some research and found that a dip was about 4-5 mg of nicotene. I used these about a month with the strongest sugar free gum I could find to get me over the hump. When I had 3 left I found I was over the cravings. Anyway I know some people will say that’s the pussy way to do it but I say anything that gets you to 30 days dip-free is worth 20 bucks. Now I just need to break the habit. I caught myself packing up my gum tin this morning.
            Like all the good guys on this site say you have to quit every single day.
            I work with a bunch of boilermakers and all but a few smoke and dip and I almost feel sorry for them now. I feel better than I have in a decade and I’m 52 years old.
            Whatever you need to get to help get off the nicotine…get it. Day 79!!

          • Thanks for responding Willie I’ve been very down in the dumps about it its a tough battle that I’ve lost many times. I’m a flat out nicotine fiend/addict. Between sports and the job its difficult to not be around it. my mind has tricked me into thinking I need a chew to feel good play ball work drive and deal with life shit. I miss the days before I needed chew to feel good . as they say the thrill is gone.I will try the gum already tried the patch but I know the real key is not to use nicotine because I do it feels like a bottomless pit that I keep throwing Skoal into.

  13. Day one coming up. Decided last night to go for it despite failing several times before. Been using 3-4 cans a day for a while. I can’t continue this habit. I know better and I am tired of being a slave to the addiction.

    • Congrats on a great decision Jay – let us know how we can help!

    • I see you’re a G+ guy… just sent you an invite. Also, check out our new G+ community here: https://plus.google.com/communities/101816651889648308197 and the KTC page here: https://plus.google.com/b/115499283264388074977/+KillthecanOrg/posts

      • Greetings, I joined the website but can’t figure out how to post anywhere but here. So I’ll give it a shot. Started dipping at 12. I am 51. Skoal is now $6.12 a can where I live. I dipped Skoal 99% of the time but would mix it with Cope Snuff. Quitting has always been very easy for me in the past. Starting again was the problem. Anyway, I’m 15 days off the dip. BUT, I have a 21 mg patch on my arm and 2 mg gum when it gets bad. I do have a script for Chantix but have not taken any and frankly I am afraid to because of the side effects. I hope to get through October with the patch and gum and once all the other poisons are out of my system, I will then battle the nicotine one on one. It’s a much more fair fight. I think all the other crap in the dip is as hard to get off of as the nicotine. Maybe I’m wrong. One positive thing so far is that I’m able to eat breakfast now and I drink 10x more water. I have had a headache everyday and the fog is bad. Even with NRT. Today is tough and that’s why I’m here. My oldest son just married a sweet gal and I’d really like the grandkid to see me with teeth and a jaw. I doubt if I post again so wish me luck as I wish everyone here luck. This stuff has controlled my every move for many years. I have been completely honest in this post. Which is very hard.

        • Doug I hope you read this. I’m 50 and started dipping at age 14 so I’m right there with you. I’m 208 days quit. I made 100 days and thought it would be down hill from there. It wasn’t. It isn’t. It sucks every fucking day – even still after 200+days. I’m an airline pilot and former F-16 pilot. You are welcome to email me if you need mutual support and/or more insight on this seemingly possible struggle. JnNyberg at Hotmail dot com. I wish you well brother. This is the right place for you.

    • Congrats on your quit date! You can do it, the fake stuff really does help a lot.

  14. going into day 6!! wasnt easy but ive gone 5 days dip free. keep on keepin on. you guys can do it!!

  15. I started dipping when I was 14 I’m now 26…since I was 18 I’ve been a 2 can sometimes 3 cans a day dipper. I quit for the first time this January and only made it a month and I was right back to 3 cans a day as I lay here tonight with a dip in I want it to be my last for my health for the money and for my family…I always said I could quit anytime no problem but I know this will be the hardest thing I have ever done in my
    Life. But I want tomorrow to the be first day of the rest of my life dip free, I envy all of you that have quit and stayed quit and tonight when I spit this last one out I’m vowing it to be the last one I ever have. I’m not one to pose on websites like this but
    I’ve been on here reading everynight for
    Months and I want to thank you all for
    Posting and giving me encouragement.

    • We are with you dude. I’m at day 79 and with you 100%. Let us know if you need help. Stay strong. I’ve found there are 2 parts to the addiction. The nicotine chemical is probably the worst because it physically craves you the other is throwing in that dip and gettin that calming feeling. The fake stuff can help with that. Read everyone’s comments and stay strong brother!!! You can do it if you want to and because you are reading this YOU WANT TO.

  16. Just ordered my first sample log to kill the can (I hope Smokey Mountain is good). Never considered myself a nicotine addict…until I threw in a lip only 2 hours after anxiously wondering if that spot on my cheek could be cancerous. I started dipping 8 years ago and thought I would grow out of it after college. Nope. Still addicted to the Nic Nip.

    Can’t wait for the alternative chew to get here and get my journey started with this group. Glad I found this site.

  17. Just ordered my first sample log (I hope Smokey Mountain is good). Never considered myself as a nicotine addict until I threw in a lip only two hours after anxiously wondering if that small spot on my cheek was a bad sign… I started dipping 8 years ago because I thought I was a badass teenager. Figured I would outgrow it by the time I finished college. Nope.

    I’ve been lingering around this site for a few days now and decided to dive in head first for a better me and a more peaceful future (I get anxious every so often about the dangers of dipping). I tried Jerky chew today but it didn’t do much for my craving since I couldn’t spit it.

    I can’t wait for my samples to arrive (couldn’t find them at any stores) so I can get my journey started with this group. I’m glad I found this group. Thank you to the creators and members, I know this will be the turning point for me.

    Day 1…to infinity, and beyond. You’re never too old for Toy Story references. I’m Ron Burgandy?

  18. I quit on 8/25 after 18 years of 1 can a day. Going cold turkey made me pretty sick for about 4 days, so I took off from work and sat on the couch drinking water. Starting day 12 today. I have cravings, but quitting is very doable.

  19. I’m a cold turkey kinda guy. Copenhagen for nearly 32 years.
    First few days were wicked, but on day 7 now and I am feeling better than I have in a long time. Breath doesn’t stink, teeth stay clean…and by the way, I am never going thru the first 72 hours again. The fog for me was the worst. Felt like I had been drinking and never sobered up! This website has been a huge help. Lots of trident and bottled water. Didn’t like the idea of weening off and using the nic gum…just rip the band-aide off! Best of luck to everyone with their quit and to hell with nicotine/tobacco/dip!

  20. Make sure your honest with yourself and your loved ones. With that being said, I’m dip free since Aug 3 and nicotine free for 7 days now. Its just a mind game from here out I believe.

  21. Well, here I go again. I am 24 years old and have been dipping since I was 15. I have “quit” before for a few weeks but went back to it during busy times in college. I could not study for anything without a fatty in. I have been a working man for 6 months and dip even more now. Yesterday I went to walgreens and bought some nicorette gum. I didn’t dip all day until last night when I rewarded myself from the 1/2 can I had left. But today, I left it at home, and every time I feel the craving I just toss in a piece of gum and chew the hell out of it till it goes away. It’s helped so far. We’ll see how it goes. Wish me luck. 1 day down

    • Congrats on your dip quit. But realize that as long as you’re chewing the gum, you’ve still got nicotine flowing through your body. It won’t be easy, but that next step toward freedom from NICOTINE is an amazing thing. http://blog.killthecan.org/2009/11/whats-really-in-nrt/

    • Like Chewie said the gum will help but you need to eventually get off that. I used the gum for about a month mixed with sugar free regular gum. After a while I cut back on the nic gum but kept chewing the regular gum. I only wished I had quit when I was 24. You are my hero..you have your whole life ahead of you…nicotine free!

  22. I’m 183 days quit. I’ve been on Bacc off the whole time. Now how do I get off the Bacc off? I tried to quit it but I can’t. Any suggestions?

  23. On day 315 today, have saved over 1800 dollars.It was the best being able to pay for a vacation this year, and has memories dip free with my boys and wife in NC at the beach. The 11 hour drive sucks dip free but plenty of dentine ice gum helped a lot. Also my dentist has recommended using dental floss sticks when I have the urge in the later stages of the quit. Go for it brothers, turn to this site when u feel life pressing hard, and know we have all been there before.

  24. Ok I’m on day 3 not chewing and I was going through a can a day of Copenhagen wintergreen I’ve been trying nicotine gum helps some but I think cold turkey might be better is fake chew any good at helping because part of it is my mouth is bored?what kind would work instead of wintergreen long cut I really just want to be over this horrible habit

  25. Coming up on 48 hours dip free after doing it since I was 15 and turning 30 in a few months. Found an article about a long time dipper that had it spread so fast he died within 4 months of being diagnosed with cancer. Didn’t even see his daughter graduate and having a 2.5 yr old little girl who is my life I decided time to make a change. Using grinds from shark tank and really would suggest them! Good luck everyone and great supportive site. Can’t believe how bad that stuff really hooked u!

  26. I’m glad I found this sight it has already helped me so much reading allot I am 3 days in and it’s getting so hard I chewed a can a day for 7 years needless to say my mouth is bored I’m using Nicolette gum but I was reading on here that’s not a good idea I would also like to figure out the roll call anything that will help

  27. Just about to hit the 24 hour mark. Today was hard. Very hard.

  28. Hello everyone,
    Just checking in, I am at 18 days without a dip and feeling the urge right now. Figured I would post to keep my mind off it. I ran out of my fake shit, and have already ordered more on-line as it isn’t sold anywhere close to me. I’m nervous about what I’m going to do until it arrives… The dumbest thing that I was seriously contemplating was to buy a can until the fake stuff gets here. I try to justify it by saying its only until the other stuff gets here. Gonna be a tough couple days, but I’m not going to start over now. I hope everyone is continuing to fight for themselves and not letting the cravings get the best of them. God Bless.

    • Walmart has the smokey mountain fake stuff. Get some gum and sunflower seeds. Keep strong. I promise you don’t want to buy a regular can at this point. You can do this.

    • Mike, I’ve been watching your comments, as yours were the first I read when I happened upon this site. Keep with it bud! I ran out of SM, but I remembered we have a whole patch of wild mint growing outside. So I dug into that.
      In 41 minutes, I’ll have gone a week. A little hazy at times, but OK. A lot of people are looking at the 100 days, but remember that the urges and withdrawal symptoms will vary. I only have seven days chew free, but I simply am not going back. Too many years of hiding it from my wife, avoiding the dentist, nightmares about dying of cancer … I am done. I’m told that 21 days is really significant as well. Keep with it. You’re kicking its ass!

      • Thanks Steve, I have gone through all the same things as you in regards to the wife and dentist. Actually the first 7 days were the hardest for me, and you are there! Once you get past that you just need to have things in place when the craving hits! I’m not a fan of SM, I really like those Wintergreen Tea Bag Mint pouches from Oregon, as it tastes as close to the Skoal Pouches I used to use, but luckily they arrive pretty quickly in the mail. Keep up the good work, and let me know if I can ever help you brudda! Take care and stick with it!!

  29. Well, I quit chewing today.. I smoked from age 16-18… When I had my daughter, I quit because I didn’t want her to receive the second hand smoke.. So of course I started chewing.. I’ve been chewing for 3 years now, and today I’m quitting. It’s been the longest 6 hours of my life. Not gonna lie, the comments are scary. people saying it was 100 days before it got better!? Ahhhh. Anyways, I’m scared I’m gonna fall through with this and give in, I’m reading these comments in hopes that it will motivate me to keep going. My boyfriend quit and hasn’t chewed in a week.. And now it’s my turn.

  30. I don’t think I can drink at all. Everytime I do I drink too much and I can almost garuntee I would smoke or dip. That doesn’t bother me though, I should go to the dentist soon i’m coming up on my 30 day mark.

  31. I have been quit for 11 days!! VERY hard!!! But i am hanging tough..

  32. I think the forums are down. I can’t miss roll!!!

  33. 46 days quit here. Had a real bad last couple days and caught myself bumming a smoke at work. Only took 2 puffs but my wife smelled it when I got home. Need help getting through those bad days and figuring out how to stay away from the smokes.

  34. Hey you all I’ve been dipping a can a day for like 5 months and every night I keep telling my self no more dip it’s tearing up my gums and my lip, this shit is bad for me why am I doing this.. I tried gum, sunflower seeds and it doesn’t seem to help. But the main problem I’m having to quit nicotine is when I go to a party, my drunk ass can’t resist a cigarette, or dip when I have a beer. Idk maybe I should quit drinking but you know as well as me that ain’t gona happen. I don’t smoke when I’m sober, I only dip. My girlfriend hates it, its sucks not being able to kiss your gf because my breath smells like cope wintergreen. I am open for suggestions if anyone can relate please give me some tips to quit this shit because I cant.

    • Jon – drinking for many (myself included) was / is a HUGE trigger. I can remember my time as a dipper when I’d walk into the local bar and by the time I got to the bar they had a shot, a beer and a spitter waiting for me.

      That said, I’d suggest you not drink for a good few weeks until you get some legs under your quit. If you can’t / won’t do that, then at the very least make sure you’re taking actions BEFORE drinking that can help you.

      Get some fake dip.
      Tell your bartender you quit.
      Tell your friends (that you’d normally bum dip off) that you’ve quit and not to give you one.
      Etc.

      If you haven’t yet, I’d also strongly suggest you join our forum at http://forum.killthecan.org/ – it’s the best place on the web to get questions answered and support from people who “get it” cause we’ve all been right where you are.

  35. I quit over two days ago. Now on hour 60, I did it cold turkey. I’m 21 chewed a tin a day since I was 16. It’s hard but buying sunflower seeds helps you tremendously on thinking about a dip. It’s all about just having something in your lip.

  36. Well I would first have an end date – Something you can remember ( a birthday / holiday or other big event) 2) Get some Smokey Mtn Wintergreen. 3) Track your progress for milestones of tobacco not controlling you. 4) If you are really having a hard time hang up pictures of people with mouth cancer around our house. That should do it. You can’t dip forever so might as well do it before your teeth and gums fall out first.

  37. Today is day one of my quit. Been lying to myself and my family too long and it’s time to take my life back. Thank you for this website, as it’s nice to see that soo many people out there have struggled to quit this nasty lifestyle, but have been able to pull through. I have joined my pre-HOF class and look forward to whoopin this!

  38. So Day one is here. After 20 years I got off it for 5 when I stopped drinking…still don’t drink but been back on for last 3. Not sure why but Im sure stress played a role and I got pulled back in HARD…tin a day immediately. Ive got to do it this time and since I have before I know I can again. I read the posts and I know I’m not alone in this…So inspired to see those of you in the hundreds of days still posting on here…I guess I wanna say thanks because I’m feeling better about my decision reading what u all write. Oh well, here I go…thanks everyone

  39. I’m on day 3 of quitting..it’s been rough for me so far. Me and my girlfriend has been bickering back and forth and I just feel lousy right now. It’s hard when you got people around you that don’t know what it’s like to be addicted to nicotine or try to quit it. But I’m this far in already I might as well keep going. Today has been the hardest cause I’m working and not out doing something. I’m an office worker so I could chew when I worked and today not having a dip is really killing me. I’m chewing the sunflower seeds like crazy and they help but I do have the withdraws today causing an upset stomach so they’re not helping as much as they did the first 2 days.

  40. Day one, after 42 years of dipping 2+ cans per day. This is going to be one hell of a fight.

  41. 24 hours free…in I can’t remember how long exactly, and I don’t remember why I have restricted myself of that buzz. The only thing I have to grip on to is the known rational thought that it actually does make me more of an anxious disaster in the long run. That’s a very loose grip when you want that buzz so bad and it’s the only thing to seemingly look forward to. I’ve only used it for about 3 years, but the last year has been pretty heavy at about a tin a day on average. I did not expect my body to stay that wide awake all night the first day without it, but I surely can’t wait for this stage to be over and to remember why I’m doing this altogether.

  42. Doing the double whammy, nicotine and caffeine in one one go. Day 1 cold turkey. Ten years plus of dip and lord only knows of soda. So far taking a nice long walk helps the most with the anxiety and the cravings. Sometimes I feel like just taking off running for no reason. I can’t wait for this all to pass.

  43. how old do u have to be to get the smoky mountain snuff dip??? please get back with me soon as possible

  44. First day of not dipping; every time someone wants to converse with me I just feel pissed. Need to just chill. Been dipping for almost 2 years now; need to stop before it gets too hard.

  45. Well on day 6 on my quit. It hasn’t been as hard as I was thinking. I dipped for 22 years(around a can a day). Each day seems to get easier. I wanted to say that I really love the idea behind this website. Keep on keeping on and quit the dip!!

  46. I quit today sick as can be I am thirty one started in third grade. I can do this

  47. i quit for 22 hours one day, stayed real busy all day withdrawls not too bad i must say. When i laid down for bed, instantly my heart started beating so hard out of my chest, i thought it was literally going to explode.. I got up and got a dip things calmed down. Anyone else heart beat extremely hard like that. Also I am looking for unique ways that people have quit. I liked the 3/4 smokey with 1/4 grizz method that was pretty clever, i thought of trying that myself, but man that taste is hard to bare. Any other unique ways people have quit?

    • Ross, absolutely have had the beating heart issue. You’ve been tricking your heart for as long as you’ve used. Now no nicotine…heart is trying to reset its rhythm. I saw a doc and he’s got me on a very low dose BP med to help. Won’t be forever…

  48. 55 days free from chew. The past couple weeks have been better, still using the fake stuff all the time. My biggest problem is sleeping. I feel like I haven’t had a full night sleep forever. Please tell me that gets better. Had a very bad day today and smoked a cigarette, now I just plain stink. Not sure if it helped or not. Still no desire for a chew which is a victory I’m sure.

    I did contact my EAP at,work and went and seen an addiction councillor. That helped a lot. Going to continue seeing him for a,while. If your struggling, might be something to consider. Hope everyone is doing good.

    Also, what is the trick for the chat on here. Can’t ever get it to load up.

  49. I am calling all of yall dippers out

    I know a lot of tough people that dip, but it is even tougher to quit the dip and stay quit.

    ********* Don’t let a tiny little tin can kick your ass, get tougher and “Kill the can” ********* *****************************************************************************

  50. Hey guys hows it going, I recently started trying to quit. I have chewed about 2 cans a day for six years and I am down to one lip a day in hope of quitting. Its just very hard because all of my roomates dip and its hard not to throw one in while were sitting around doing nothing. Any tips?

  51. Glad I found this website. I’ve only been dipping constantly for about 2 years now but it has really taken a toll on me. I typically go through 4 cans a week and that shit drains my wallet I am sick of it. I am 20 years old and my father is always dipping, he even makes me go buy it for him at the store. I find it difficult to quit when there are cans laying around my house all the time and I see him packing lips all day..it’s a terrible environment to quit in but so far it’s been about 48 hours since my last chew and that’s the longest I’ve gone in a while..these cravings are making me go crazy! Does the fact that I’ve only dipped for a few years make it any more easy to quit? Or will I experience the same discomfort and cravings as someone who has done it for decades?

    • Michael – I can’t say for sure as I was one of those decade + guys. That said, I think unfortunately you’re in for the same type of withdrawal that we all have. The GOOD news in that (if there is any) is that you’re among literally THOUSANDS of folks that have done it… and you can too.

  52. I dipped today and threw up. Then I coughed blood. Do I have cancer

  53. just surpassed my first month chew free, feeling good about it. my journey has just began and I’m ready for the long road i have ahead of myself, good luck to the rest of you. kill the can

  54. i decided to quit back in july after 11years of dipping from 13 to 24 years old it was getting boring an i felt like a slave to it and notice i was going through a can a day and had two white spots that hurt on my bottom lip i was like i gotta quit this dip! So they healed up, but i ordered Smokey Mountain, and then got Elicit and Triumph to help me in the nicotine dept without the chemicals . Every two weeks i got a can of tobacco and felt guilty that i caved in. But now after this Sunday i threw my Wolf Peach away after 4 dips. And going to try to be tobacco free. i still using nic but staying away from The Evil Tobacco with all those nasty chemicals, it has gave me body and mouth pain, Anxiety and stress i hate that cant even fall asleep fast. pray for me guys i’m conquering this beast and can’t wait for it to be a month and than a year!

  55. Dipped for 28 years (mostly Skoal…moved to pouches about 10 years ago). Not only dipping, but swallowing for most of that time. Decided to quit cold turkey on my 43rd birthday (9/13) and had my last dip on 9/15. I have to say thanks to those of you who have posted before me. Reading some of your comments have been very helpful.

    First couple of days were a bitch. Twitchy, shaky, cranky…basically all the tell tale symptoms. Started using the Teaza pouches, and those for the most part have helped with the oral issues. However now, almost a month later, it’s like I’m going thru withdrawal again. Cloudy brain, mood swings. Craving a dip….Wondering if anyone had ever experienced this? I mean….it’s almost a month and now I feel like I did three days after I quite…..

    • Yo Tony, Don’t you worry about a thing, it happens to all of us. You are on the right track, keep it up. Seems to happen in a cycle, you feel good for a while then some days are crappy. Here is a link on this site that has a timeline of all symptoms that happens during a quit.

      http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/what-to-expect-when-you-quit-dipping/

      Good Luck.

    • My name is chris and im 31 days free after two cans a day for over 5 years. Its all mental buddy after watching my 6 yr old boy pack and tuck a pinch of jerky chew cause he wanted to be like me. I remember why I quit and why im stronger than a damp can of skoal. I miss it but no more than I miss having control over my life. You can do it man. Trust me its possible.

  56. I’m 19 and have been dipping for about 4 months and this stuff has already got me addicted! I’ve toned it down to 1 dip/chew a day and decided today was my last day. Glad I found a page where I can find support most my friends dip so this is all I got

  57. I am 468 days dip free now I am trying to lose weight with with not dipping it has made me want to try to wrestle again but quiting dipping has shown me that I can do whatever I want as long as i put my mind and heart to it

  58. Day 44!! Chewed cope for 30yrs! It’s getting better every day but I’m in this terrible fog that won’t go away! Headaches , lightheaded blurred vision does this shit go away!

  59. So it has been ten hours since I have had a dip. This is by far the longest I have ever been without a pinch of snuff. I have been chewing gum to just help the craving. What have others found that is useful to them and helped you through the first week of hell?

  60. My name is jake I’m 14 and been dipping for 1 year tonight I read a lot of post an got encouraged to quit I’ve been dipping cope long cut for one year and switched to skoal mint pouches and dipped the last one today I’ve been thinking about telling my parents after I quit and I also been worrying about cancer a lot so tomarro I’m starting a dip free life

  61. Hang in there I’m on day 87 and I still feel that way. As tough as it is every day you got to tell yourself it’s worth it. The “fog” is not fun but we can all beat it

  62. Day 6 after 15 years so far so good. Still has a hold of my mind! But I can do it!

  63. I’m on day 4 and feel terrible. I’m angry and jumpy and my anxiety is threw the roof I chewed 1 tin a day of Griz wintergreen for 9 years . I’m really determined to quit Not just for my family but for myself as well. Any quit tips would be great .

  64. 24hours clean as of right now. I started this crap again 10 years ago. This is my second cessation. It seems harder this time. Cravings are intense but they actually pass after 15 minutes or so. Hard candy, lemon drops are great, sunflower seeds, specifically Spitz cracked pepper. I hope I’m here after another 24 hours!

  65. Day 325 today, I still think about it daily, i miss it every once in a while. I won’t have any though, I never thought after 31 years I would be able to quit, just 40 more days to my 1 year of freedom

    • Excellent post. I can understand your plight too. My name is John, I dipped for 35 years and I am now quit for 200+ days. I too still think about it daily – usually 6-10 times a day for me. It still lurks constantly in the background. “Wouldn’t it be nice….” I have to tell myself “Hell No”. So thanks for posting and providing strength for me. I hit 1 year on 4 MAR 2015. Thanks for sharing this John.

      • I used to think about it 20 times a day, as time went by I thought about it less, now, for the most part I think about it every other day. I originally quit using Chantix, after a month and a half I felt I could do it without the pills, I was right, with very little will power Ive made it to day 326. If I gave in now I wouldn’t be able to forgive myself. Good luck on your quit and please don’t ever give in, don’t ever let anything or anyone be the cause of you giving in.

  66. I am 18 and I started chewing when I was 12 I am done with the stuff starting tomorrow I am tired of when I am brushing my teeth blood pouring out of my gums and my teeth starting to have a yellow tint. If anyone wants to give me any tip please tell me because I don’t want to have dentures at the age of 25.

  67. Stewie, I quit on the 13th of Oct, in the 72 hrs now. I started in 1975 chewing copenhagen. I told myself i would quit for 40 years and now that my 50th is coming up, I made the commitment. I knew it was going to be hard… and it is. But I can and will be successful. And so will you. If you truly want it, make it happen.

  68. Day 25,After 25 yrs of dipping 1-2 tins a day.Still have fogginess,I hope this goes away soon.Just want to feel normal again.

  69. I dipped copenhagen since I was 15 years old (to spit and lose water weight for wrestling…go figure) and just stopped cold turkey on 10/12/2014. I am having a hell of a time today…have not slept well in 2 days…eating everything in sight…feeling restless…how much longer before I am back to normal?

    • It can take a while to return to “normal”. There were things that I NEVER did without a dip (drove, cut the grass, etc.) so I literally had to re-learn how to do things because “normal” WAS with a dip. That said, here’s an outstanding timeline that will give you some insight: http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/what-to-expect-when-you-quit-dipping/

    • J walk: no bullshit here! It takes some time to get to ” normal” I asked the same question when I started my quit..

      I couldn’t sleep, ate like a pig in heat… Use fake stuff… All of this is plus more is our path to end nic.

      Good news.. If you continue and fight each day… Things do get better. Keep up the fight, I for one will follow your quit, so post when you can, and keep up the fight

      Jeff. Day 67
      (Jj)

  70. I am trying to make the decision to quit after almost 17 years of dipping. I started at a VERY young age and it has had a hold of me ever since. I am in the Army and my work gets pretty stressful at times which triggers my use. I started on Cope and swtiched to Grizzly when I was 18. I have tried to quit, but caved every time. I want to quit to save money and not expose my young kids to a bad habit. I just need some solid advice on how to kick it. I tried that herbal crap and couldnt stomach the taste, and then I tried pouches, but went right back to long cut straight. Please, any advice from some of you guys that have kicked the habit would be greatly appreciated.

    • Shad I am on day 83, by reading your post, it seems that you tried pretty much everything out there and nothing worked.

      Here is how I did it. I joined a gym and worked my ass off everyday, I mean like a freaking beast to work off all that pent up energy I built during the day while at work.
      It sucked like a MF I aint gonna lie.

      The other thing I did, is carried a bottle of water, every time I had the urge, I would stuff my face with water, so all day I would be sucking water and pissing like a horse, you see the urge to piss distracts your brain from the tobacco craving.

      Another thing I tried, and I know it sounds psycho, but it is taught in the marines, I would hit myself on my thigh to shift the pain? or count just start counting until the crave passes.
      Try that and believe in yourself, think about your kids and get mad, i mean get mean mad at that GRIZZLY, tell it you aint gonna get me no more bitch. I aint going down no more!!!

      Then come back here and let us know how you did…

      Good Luck Shad.

  71. Day 3 no dip. How long till this feelings over??

    • Day 3 is typically one of the worst as it takes nicotine 72 hours to work its way out of your body. It will take some time yet before you start feeling “normal” but you’re through one of the roughest patches and at this point, you’re 100% nicotine free. No going back now!!! http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/what-to-expect-when-you-quit-dipping/

    • That’s right Dalton, Chewie is right, the nicotine detoxification is finally processed all of it out of your liver, blood and brain. You are on your way out of that addiction, the next step is going to be all mental, it’s gonna suck like Hell, but you can do it. Just keep posting here and ask questions or rant away like the rest of us. I am on day 83 myself and I still rant in here it helps me, it should help you too.

  72. Hope you guys are right tired of feelin like shit.

    • I know what you mean, I went through it myself, the easy part is to get back to it and face the consequences, the hard part is to stay quit and regain our health, strength and the will power to defeat one of the hardest habits to break on earth. If you can do this, you can do anything you put your mind to it.
      Think about it this way, You probably dipped for a couple of years, to reverse all the damage done will take a little while. Tough it out and Just do it one day at a time.

  73. Day 34 for me. I bought two 10 packs of the nicotine gum (2 and 4mg respectively) when I picked my quit date to get through the difficult physical withdrawal part. I promised myself I wouldn’t buy any more of the gum in after running out. The last thing I wanted was to move my addiction from chew to the gum. I ran out after two days and kept my promise so I’m 32 days nicotine free today. Reading through the inspirational stories on this site helped me and still does today if I find myself having difficulty. Its good to have a place to come to where others relate. Keep the faith and good luck.

  74. Officially one day, one hour, and twenty minutes without any tobacco. So far I’ve been doing well. Of course it’s almost always right there in the back of my mind begging me to just run up town and get one more can. Just one last hurrah and then we can quit for real. But I’m committed this time. I haven’t made it this far since I started back up five years ago. I know I can do this. Thank you all for the stories and I wish you all the best as we kick this things ass together!

  75. One week dip free. Getting harder for me.

    • Come on now…keep it clean…a week in that’s the hard part..if u can get through a week let’s shoot for another week! Ur body is healing …keep up the good work..

    • One week Down, Hot Dam, you made it Dalton, you are there, it is at this point when the tobacco has left your body, now its all you against yourself wrestling with the idea of going back, Keep in mind, you are fighting an idea, something that is not real, get it?, that idea is nothing without you putting you mind and body into it. Not really sure how to explain it.
      I hope it makes sense. Keep up the good work.

      • Thank you ! Today is one of those shitty days where I want to go and get a tin. But made it this far why give up now. Thank guys for the support!

  76. I am 48 hours dip free, quit a couple of years ago and then fell off the horse when I thought I could handle just one for old times sake. This fog sucks, The nicorette gum helps very little. The fog sucks, but I won’t cave, this battle is a mental battle, I will win.

  77. 3 wks nicotene free. I have come to a conclusion Fake dip works. Chewing gum is almost as good. Physical withdrawl is long gone. My prooblem is the mental side. I drive a truck 300 to 400 miles a day on some of the most boring piece oc interstate. I get alot of time to fidget around Thats where fak dip comes in handy

  78. Day 99 and I’m very dependent on Smokey Mountain and sunflower seeds now. Any suggestions for the next step?

  79. I chewed the fake stuff daily (can + per day) for a good 220 days into my quit. Then one day… I just didn’t need it any more. My suggestion would be to use it till you don’t need it any more. The overwhelming majority of people will eventually just put it down and not look back.

  80. What do you mean dependent? Needing an oral fix? Try keeping a water bottle with you and taking a swig instead of a seed.

  81. Keep eating seeds and quit with the smokey mountain. Or continue with both

  82. 5 wks almost gave in I found a can in my drawer. I dont know how long it had been there it was all dried up . I thought heck its only one. WRONG! It would have been an excuse to lie to myself as to why I started again So I threw the weed into the toilet

  83. What types of fake dip did you find help full?

  84. John – There are some outstanding fake dips out there. http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/smokeless-alternatives/ Is there a particular brand or flavor you’re trying to replicate? I’m happy to point you in the right direction.

  85. I’m trying to replicate Kodiak wintergreen the only dip I have used for the last 20 years.

  86. I have been chewing the smoky mountain stuff and it is pretty good. I only tried Kodiak and can’t remember what it was like. I am finding that it really isn’t the taste (for me), as much as having something in my lip.

  87. After 27 years of only using Kodiak, I have been trying to find a good alternative, and after 3 weeks of being tobacco and nicotine free, smokey mountain seems to the best fake dip I have found! 3 weeks down the rest of my life to go.

  88. It’s true. Once you decide to quit, you can NEVER go back. I quit a few times and each time I went back, it was a worse addiction. It’s been over 4 years now (quit) and I still use the herbal snuff and I never even think of real tobacco anymore.

  89. Hard love!!!!! If you quit for 1 truly solid week and you go back I say FUCK YOU !!! I chewed for 31 years before I truly quit,I’m in my 5th month of my quit. Just bought a brand new truck as my reward. The money I save almost covers the payment. This is the way it is, if you make it a week you can make it forever, don’t let that brown bitch control what you do, when you do it or keep you from your family

  90. I’m thinking about purchasing some fake dip. Usually do Skoal Wintergreen. So far Hooch and Smokey mountain are my top choices, but they say Hooch isn’t quite like long cut and that Smokey Mountain stains your teeth and is messier than Hooch. What about longetivity? Any suggestions????

  91. Thinking about looking into some fake dip. Usually purchase Skoal Wintergreen. So far Hooch and Wintergreen seem like my best too options, but I hear Hooch isn’t quite “long cut” and stains the teeth and can be a little too “harsh” to feel like real dip. However, SM I hear stains teeth and is super messy. What about longetivity and flavor? Advice and suggestions?? I’ll take as much as I can get!

  92. That’s what I wanted to hear!

  93. Hey Chewie, I hear everyone using Smokey Mountain, is that available in Texas? I finally broke down and ordered some Hooch, but it would be a lot easier if I could just buy it somewhere here locally.

  94. Lex & Ty – reviews, coupons, etc. here. http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/smokeless-alternatives/ I’ve tried just about all of them. My personal reviews are located here: http://blog.killthecan.org/reviews/ If you’re a Skoal Wintergreen guy I’d point you to Hooch, Holt or Elicit to get you started, but there are SEVERAL great products out there. Let me know if you’ve got any specific questions… happy to help!

  95. Thank you so much!! Ty tried some Smokey Mountain because it’s all our local store sells and we have yet to get our Hooch…he said that it did not have the Skoal tobacco feel or the wintergreen taste. So my question is, will the Hooch Wintergreen be close to the Skoal tobacco feel and wintergreen taste he is looking for? He’s very excited about trying the Hooch! And will it be long-cut enough for him? That is his usual cut of choice.

    Please reply, and thank you for your help!

  96. I’ve often gone on record as saying Hooch Wintergreen (for me) is as close to the real thing as you can find on the market. It won’t be quite that “long” cut he’s looking for, but Hooch DID just come out with a “rough” cut which is much closer.

  97. Today while at Walmart I decided not to buy a can of smokey mountain, Im also on Day190 of my quit. no urges but I’ve been drinking a lot more lately. I’m not sure if it’s cause it’s finally gotten nicer here in the northeast or if I’m substituting alcohol for my ex-addiction.

  98. So we should go for the Hooch Wintergreen rough cut, yes?

  99. Day 243, I curbed my drinking, I drink only 3-4 evenings a week which is better than every night. I still would love to have a pinch but don’t want it all at the same time. I also just came from the dentist and the didn’t beat me up about my teeth this time, pretty cool !!!. I miss my old friend but I’ll get past this part of my life simply because I refuse to be controlled by tobacco or anything or anyone!!!

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