Smokeless Alternatives

Part of the reason that quitting chew is so difficult is that it’s not just a mental & chemical battle. There is also a very physical part of breaking nicotine’s hold on us. For some of us, the oral fixation is one of the most difficult parts of our quits. If you’ve had something in your lip/mouth for the past 15 years your body gets used to it… take that away (along with all the nicotine that you’re losing) and you’re bound to be a little on the irritable side. Below is a list of alternatives to smokeless tobacco (also known as fake dip or fake tobacco) that will help you get past the oral fixation.

For more information about fake dip, check out these pages as well:

Smokey Mountain SnuffSmokey Mountain Snuff

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Jake's Mint ChewJake’s Mint Chew

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Hooch SnuffHooch Snuff

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Teaza Energy PouchesTeaza Energy Pouches

Mini-Green Energy PouchesMini-Green Pouches

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Schmitty's SnuffSchmitty’s Snuff

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Nip Energy DipNip Energy Dip

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Herd Sports ChewHerd Sports Chew

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Cowboy Coffee ChewCowboy Coffee Chew

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Major League Coffee DipMajor League Coffee Dip

Holt Tobaccoless ChewHolt Tobaccoless Chew

Fully Loaded ChewFully Loaded Chew

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Go Coffee EnergyGo Coffee Energy

Mint SnuffMint Snuff

Whitetail SmokelessWhitetail Smokeless

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Java ChewsJava Chews

Elicit Herbal ChewElicit Herbal Chew

Long Ball LicoriceLong Ball Licorice

Golden Eagle Herbal ChewGolden Eagle Herbal

Triuimph ChewTriumph Chew

The Ryan ExpressThe Ryan Express

Gator Sunflower Seed ChewGator Chew

Absolut SnusAbsolut Snus

Young's ChewYoung’s Chew


Wisconsin’s Fintest Root 100Root 100


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  1. Yall want to quit? Get your tonsils removed! I didn’t dip for 3 weeks and never nicked hard enough to take a dip, couldn’t talk much or eat much and the thought of dipping made me vomit. I’m 30 , tonsillectomy was absolute hell, but I quit and now smoke a pipe every once in a while which is no more addicting than CSI! Good luck!

  2. Anyone have feedback on Flasr Inc. tobacco and alternative products? never tried, but been hearing about their chew and snuff products…

  3. Is there a significant taste difference from the fakes?

  4. There are so many choices out here; how does one choose the healthiest and safest alternative, I have heard of companies like Flasr Inc. who have a large variety of smokeless tobacco alternatives; as well as Smokey Mountain, any suggestions?

  5. Out of the products mentioned above is there anything that resembles the taste of Copenhagen fine cut? I really want and need to quit but if the alternative taste like crap I know I won’t stick with it.

    • Michael, I wasn’t a Cope person (I was a Skoal guy), I dabbled with it, so I know what it tastes like. But the closest “taste” I had to Cope was the Smokey Mountain Classic -or- Straight. Walmart sells the stuff or you can order it online. Now…the “fine-ness” cut of Cope is something different. I know some people spoke about Hooch having a fine cut, I only sampled the long cut or “Rough Cut” stuff from Hooch. The most fine cut stuff I ever had was from Elicit. That stuff was REALLY fine, I am a Long Cut guy, so I steered away from the Elicit (it tasted good though).
      Just remember, its all about changing your thoughts on tobacco. Nothing of the fake stuff will “exactly” resemble the real stuff. What I did was found one that “works” and stuck with it. I’m fine without the real stuff, there are a lot of good, fake alternatives out there.
      Personally, I am a Triumph guy, but its worth trying many of them. I also liked the Smoke Mountain line up and the Spit Fire flavor from Hooch, now that stuff was some really HOT stuff!
      Goof luck!

  6. I’m glad the store is clos we do right now. All this talk about chew has me wanting one. Day 7 for me and it not getting easier

  7. I never tried Cope Wintergreen…I was a Skoal Wintergreen guy for probably 19-20 years and Kodiak prior to that. But being a wintergreen guy, I was a fan of the wintergreen flavors first. I would think the “fine cut” of cope is similar to Elicits (non nicotine form of course). They have a wintergreen flavor that I tried, that was pretty good. Smokey Mountain, Hooch, Golden Eagle, BaccOff and Holt all have a Wintergreen variety as well. I’ve tried them all, but Triumph is my favorite and they too have Wintergreen. I have since fell in love with Triumph’s Classic flavor. But “if” the cope wintergreen comes in a “fine cut” and that’s what you’re used too, I’d point you to Elicit. Just my opinion….keep in mind I wasn’t a cope guy and also….none of these alternatives will replace your old stuff. They might be close, but NOT the same. Good luck!

  8. Which is the closest to Copenhagen wi

  9. Do you have to be 18 to purchase any of these?

    • None of the products here contain any nicotine or any tobacco. That said, I know at least a few of them require buyers to be at least 18 years old.

  10. any ideas on long leaf chew like red man replacement?

    • Sadly there really isn’t one out there. I know there are several vendors working on concepts but for the time being your best bet would be shredded jerkey or gum.

    • Long leaf chew is more addictive I found. Beechnut has a high nicotine content and taste great! Do not recommend any pouches of long lead, Levi Garrett tore my mouth up so bad I did not chew or dip for almost 9 months, then duck hunting one day a guy I was guiding offered me a pinch of cope and haven’t quit yet( 9 years ago)

    • I was looking into maybe using whole tea leaves soaked with molasses as a substitute, so I was also wondering if any company already had something similar. Red Man was my favorite but I can’t stand the texture or taste of dip so all the similar flavored/style subs don’t do much for me.

      • Hi Stephen – unfortunately there isn’t a long leaf sub out there on the market. I know several of the vendors are looking into it. Will definitely let you know when something hits.

  11. Hello, I am 20 years old and been chewing pretty heavy since I was 17 or so. I constantly tell myself “this is my last can” but keep going for me. I would not do it for a few days then get an exciting rush when I got more. I have not chewed for 3 days now and really trying to make quitting a priority. Just feel like I should quit now before its too late. Plus my bottom gums have receded so much I feel like a few more cans will ruin me. Anyways, I have a question…does this fake chew still cause gum decay?? Been seeing great reviews for jakes mint chew but if it still irritates the gums, no point in trying

    • I’m going to be complete honest with of you quitting dipping is awesome and I currently dip every now and then but the chances of you getting cancer from dipping is 1 and 100,000. You are more like to get into a car crash on your way to work than to get cancer from dipping. Most problems occur with dipping because people don’t brush the teeth regularly and keep up with there hygiene. I’m not saying it’s impossible to get cancer from dip I’m just saying it’s very unlikely. Some families are just more prone to get cancer than others to. I know people who are in their 80s and have dipped since they were 12 and still don’t have cancer and yes they have dentures but not because of the dip but because they got old. All these sites say let’s stop tobocca companies well quiting isn’t going to stop tobacco companies. If people wouldn’t introduce dip to other people they wouldn’t dip. Nobody just walks into a store never trying dip and says give me a can of Copenhagen wintergreen. They don’t just pack the can and grab the juicy tobacco and put it in their lip then spit no someone has to teach them that. If your wanting to quit go for it but just think dealing with the headaches and shakes is it really worth it when you could just buy you a can and pack a lip and enjoy yourself? Wish all of you the best of luck on your journey. If you just need a pinch take one dint make your self suffer. You only live once so make it worth it.

      • *sigh*

        So let me get this straight… you know a bunch of old dudes that dip so that’s your scientific proof that dipping isn’t dangerous?

        No other response necessary…

      • Wow….just WOW! What exactly are you doing a quit site then….Mr. Pro Tobacco? Its clear you’re too weak to face addiction. I hope you can someday, grow a pair of balls and help others off a drug that is more addictive than heroin. Thanks for offering no solutions to the problem. Time to wake up and smell what you’re shoveling Zachary.

  12. I am on day 46. Was a 35+ yr Copenhagen addict. Did 1 tin/day usually 4 chews/per day. Sunflower seeds did nothing for me. I have had success using coffee grounds as a chew substitute. Anybody else try that?

    • Hi Bob…haven’t tried that yet. I’ve tried Bac-off, TeaZa and Smokey Mountain. So far I like TeaZa and Smokey Mountain the best. I’ll try the coffee pouches though…worth a try. Good luck on your quit an well done! Day 46 would be mean free and clear to me. Just don’t get drunk one night and accidentally pop one in. If you quit…quit. I’m on day 36 and I fully intend to be completely done after 20+ years myself on and off.

      • Tony, they are not coffee pouches. I just use regular coffee grounds.

        • Bob,

          I was a 30 year Copenhagen long cut dipper until three weeks ago…

          coffee grounds straight from the coffee can have been the only thing that I have tried so far and it has worked well for me. I am three weeks into my quit and have read about the alternatives. I started my quit by going cold turkey, then taking cranberry pills for a couple of weeks in order to try and flush out my system (drink lots of water and be prepared to take many trips to the bathroom). I try not to chew the coffee too much but will put them in when the cravings are bad. I found that they are pretty dry at first and can’t pinch them easily so I just take a teaspoon and put the right amount in my lip and wait for it to soak in. So far, so good. I recommend trying it out but if that doesn’t work, you will need to find something that will work for you. Good Luck!

  13. I have dipped or chewed for 35 years. I want to quit and have found that nicotene gum takes care of that need and keeps me from being a jerk. The problem is that I need something in my lip, I just tried the TeaZa pouches and the pouches fill great. The flavor is great if thats what you like (I don’t). I would love to get a wintergreen pouch that feels like the real deal. A weak taste is fine, hell I have been dipping Qrizzly pouches, you want to talk about weak.
    Any suggestions are welcomed and appreciated.

  14. Hey guys, I started dipping about four years ago. I cant seem to quit with sunflower seeds I love them but I still crave dip. I dip wintergreen cope I tried wintergreen hard candy and cold turkey and dint do it for me. Id like to have something to use as dip My problem is I dint like smokey mountain at all, its to sweet and doesn’t last long enough by taste and the can seems to be gone in about 5 dips. If you have a recommendation on a product and where to get it, it’d be greatly appreciated!

  15. My husband has been chewing red seal long cut natural for as long as I can remember and he would like to know which fake tobacco flavor would be best for him?

  16. Looking to quit Copenhagen fine cut and pick up an alternative. What’s everyone recommend?

  17. I’ll give them a try and post my review. Btw what do you think about BaccOff straight pouches? Thank you!

  18. Does anyone have thoughts on the best “alternative pouches” to replace Skoal classic straight? The lack of nicotine/tobacco is one thing, but I’m one of the “oral fixation” people who likes the “feel” of it. The problem is that mint/wintergreen flavors etc. make my stomach turn. Heck, if there wasn’t straight flavored tobacco on the market, I’d be all good! 😉

  19. i cant find a tobacco free dip that is longer cut. its so fine. long cut would make me feel so much better. any ideas?

  20. Hello all, I’ve been dipping about a can a day for about 5 years now. I have either an ulcer or a cancerous bump on my gums (going to dentist soon) but it really kind of told me that I need to quit. I dip Copenhagen Straight Longcut. Was wondering if any of these flavors are similar?

  21. Hey guys I’m 19 and just started a few months ago and an thinking about quitting in all reality I probly won’t… but I was wondering, aside from the feeling of something between your lip how else do these products help aid quitting?

  22. I have been dipping tobacco for years, and I’m trying to get away from the nicotine, i’m looking for a brand. that can help me do that, but the thing is I don’t want snuff. and someone told me that they made or someone made a product that was like a looseleaf but it was tobacco free , does anyone know of something like that??

  23. Is there anything kinda like cop or Grizzly on here cuz I’ve tried Jake’s mint chew

  24. I was on day 7 and had a relaspe, I am now on day 2 and I am using Smokey Mountain and Nicorette Lozengers just to take the edge off. Copenhagen snuff dipper for 33 years. I need to, I want to, I have to QUIT!

  25. Try this page on this site, seems to have a bunch of stories, Including mine, of a bunch of dudes going through the same things you are.

  26. Reading these posts helps me more than anything. When it’s not enough I find that jakes mint chew is the best alternative as far as texture. Keep posting people… So I don’t punch a coworker, thanks

  27. Day 67
    It is true Jason, I can vouch for that, the trick is DON’T do it, that is all. keep busy, drink water, work out whatever you can do to keep your mind occupied. Hell, think about it this way, you did it for 25 years, it will take a little while to get rid of the cravings. I ain’t going to lie the journey is not easy sometimes, but then again those things that we work the hardest to get are the biggest rewards we value.

  28. 23 Days here after 25 years of LOVING the stuff…..I really thought by now I’d be craving free……somebody tell me, when will the craving go away?!

  29. If I ever did anything good on this earth, I hope this is it. I am calling all of yall dippers out

    I know a lot of tough people that dip, but it is even tougher to quit the dip and stay quit.

    ********* Don’t let a tiny little tin can kick your ass, get tougher and “Kill the can” ********* ******************************************************************************************

    Now, Who is going to be the first?

  30. Day 60

    Two Stinking Months I been off the Shitsky, I am proud..

    Dude if you are contemplating quitting?, Do it!!!, Just Do it!! I dare you, I know you all can do it too.

    I know you got what it takes,

    You know how when you got started Doing this Shit, you felt like a MAN, a tough guy?

    Well It takes a Much Bigger Man to Quit. Be that Man, OWN it Fellas, Own that Shit.

    Come on Do it!!, and then come back here and tell us all about it, there are a bunch of guys here that will listen to your progress, rants, failures, whatever the Hell you want to talk about. I know they heard it from me, its been 2 Months and I’ve written almost every day.

    So What’s your story?

  31. I’m used to chewing Copenhagen or Griszly snuff can anyone suggest something with a similar taste?? I just tried smoky mountain herbal wintergreen and it wasn’t bad just not the right flavor for me.

  32. Why don’t they make an herb chew with nicotine? That way you get the nicotine without the cancer? I’ve been on an e cig for years and it has nicotine but not all the other crap. I was searching online for a tobacco free chew with nicotine for my boss and I can’t find one, so weird that the e cig idea of nicotine delivery with out tobacco has not been developed for this consumer group.

  33. I have found the herbal chew very helpful, its not going to “make it all better” but its something to stuff in your lip. I quit cold turkey 7 days ago, its been a very long week but i think i got it beat. I have been using a can of Cope long cut a day for over a decade; very glad to be done with such a shitty habit. The patches and/or gum didn’t work at all for me in the past; and most likely wont work for anyone as its perpetuating your addiction. I didn’t even use the herbal stuff for the first 3 days as i felt even that would just make it worse. Now that the physical cravings are gone i am using the herbal mint to help with the psychological cravings i am getting after a cup of coffee or a beer (my two real triggers). Oh i should also add that 2 weeks before i actually quit i cut back from a can a day to a can a week, started putting a very small amount in my upper lip; so i guess its been a 3 week process so far…… anyhow thats what worked for me.

  34. Has anybody heard of or used a dip alternative called blue whale smokeless tobacco. It was tobacco free but had nicotine. I have been chewing for 30 plus years and it was the only product that had me weaned off the real stuff. They quit carrying it in my area and I was eventually back on the real stuff. Does it still exist or something similar with nicotine but non tobacco out on the market. Please let me know.

  35. Anyone found a substitute for red man loose leaf pouch chewing tobacco? Like Brenden, I don’t like dip but prefer the texture and flavor of chewing tobacco. Thanks for any advice.

  36. Hey folks. 23 year tobacco user (about 4 of it smokes, the other 19, chew) here. I’m finally thinking about quitting. Just seems like the right time and I’m so tired of the constant indigestion. I had been a Skoal mint guy until about 5 years ago or so when it finally hit $6 a can. Then I switched to the cheapest thing I could find, Longhorn. I’m sure most of the folks on here haven’t tried it (it’s hard to even find it in most of the chain stores here), so I’d settle for a Skoal longcut mint substitute if anyone knows of something similar. Anyone have any ideas? I haven’t tried any of the substitutes, so I’m willing to give any of them a shot as long as they don’t taste like dirt.

  37. Is anybody aware of any of the tobacco free chews that would have a similar taste to grizzly wintergreen pouches? I’ve been using them for about 2 years and currently use 2 cans a day, 3 on a bad day. Started it to quit drinking and now I’m hooked on them.

  38. Altoids strategically placed between the gumline and lip works for me. Nicotine withdrawl isn’t my problem. It’s my ADD like behavior and the nervous habit of filling time with activity. Also, moments of anxiety have my grabbing for the can, whether it be Altoids or Copenhagen. Nevertheless, with a can price just short of $7 in San Diego, and a can a day habit, I’ve dropped to 2 cans a week with the Altoids substitute, I may just someday be able to retire.

    My daily habit was running $3k a year. $3k a year at 8%, compounded annually for 10 years = $19,936 profit and having saved the $30k in principal enriching myself, not 7-11. 20 years? $151k – $60,000 principal = $91k profit! Now there’s some motivation!

  39. I see a lot of altenatives to canned dip, but nothing for long leaf chew like Redman. I enjoy chewing Redman, but I don’t like dip. Is there an alternative for the loose leaf chewing tobacco? Something to chomp on, which is how I chew Redman

    • Try leaves make sure to clean them though. I used to be addicted to red man an I wasn’t addicted to the nicotine just the feel so I asked some of my buddy’s what they thought and one of them suggested leaves. It worked for me so you should give it a shot

  40. Great to hear from you. I am on my way to the Mayo Clinic for a 3 conference on nicotine addiction. I will post any new findings that are worth sharing with the group.

    The science does bear out that a regiment of tapering NRT does have good results. That said, if a dipper can do it without I am supportive. I work to find individual solutions. No hard and fast rules. Just want to help!

    I gave your site info to a young man I just began working with. You have a great support network. I am a big fan.


    • Sherri, would love to hear what things you might have picked up at this conference. Since I’ve been reading this blog and participating in the forum it’s become blatantly apparent the majority of people at KTC are extremely anti-nicotine. I am kicking the habit, not because of the nicotine, but because of the tobacco itself. However, I’ve been following the rules of the group, and cut out nicotine completely.

      I am curious though as to what the medical world says about nicotine alone. From what I’ve been reading nicotine has several potential health benefits which are being studied. I’ve seen studies regarding nicotine’s ability to reduce the risk of or treat Alzheimer’s, Parkinson’s, Tourette’s, ADD/ADHD, schizophrenia, diabetes, epilepsy, asthma, and depression. It looks like most of these disorders benefit from the release of acetylcholine, norepeinepherine, epinephrine, vasopressin, serotonin, dopamine, and betaendorphins;chemical reactors which have the ability to increase concentration, memory, alertness, arousal, as well as reducing the reactions to pain and anxiety.

      I’m interested in an actual discussion as to whether nicotine ingestion, through non-tobacco alternatives (dependent upon the delivery system), could have possible benefits to the user.

      • Wait a minute, so you are saying that NICOTINE in itself is being studied to treat diseases and disorders? So those of us that got the nicotine via chewing or dipping tobacco are just too negative about it. Are you suggesting that it might be the other carcinogens in orally used tobacco that is the real problem rather than the nicotine itself?
        Are you a user? a researcher? or just curious?
        I know , too many questions, but aside from the Research and scientific information, it would be cool to share your story with the rest of us?

        • I’m sensing a tad bit of sarcasm in your reply there, but I could be mistaken so I’ll answer honestly. I was a user, been off for around 40 days now. I was part of the forum, but just don’t have the time to dedicate to that so I’ve since dropped away there, but I am still committed to my quit. I’ve been keeping track of my days tobacco and nicotine free on my wife’s calendar in our kitchen. I’ve been using some alternatives, trying to find the right one, and have pretty much gotten to the point where I’ve accepted that nothing will match the feel and taste that I’m used to. I like the Oregon Mint pouches, but wish they were filled a little bit more.

          As far as my original post, I wasn’t suggesting anything. I’ve read a couple articles and studies and was asking if what I’d read carried true, and was hoping Sherri could offer some insight as a professional. Now of course everyone will have their own opinions about nicotine consumption, but from what I’ve read when it comes to tobacco usage certain chemicals are carcinogens (mostly chemicals that are added in processing) whereas the nicotine it self is not carcinogenic but rather is simply the addictive substance which promotes continued usage and exposure to the carcinogens. I’ve also seen where some researchers have determined that, as a stimulant, nicotine can potentially have beneficial side effects.

          I don’t doubt that cutting nicotine out along with the tobacco is the best option. Like the difference between switching to Diet Coke or completely cutting out pop. It is definitely healthier to cut out the sugars and corn syrups by going with something diet, but it is much healthier to completely cut out carbonated beverages. However, I am still interested if there is any real backing, and to what extent, to what I’ve read.

  41. I am a tobacco treatment specialist and I do understand the addiction. You can do this with support, nicotine replacement for a few months, WATER to flush out the toxins in your tissues, a harmless habit to replace the dip.

    There is no quick, one size fits all approach. You are addicted to the hardest thing to quit. The small size of dippers vs smokers is why the drug companies don’t study withdrawal and quitting in dippers. If there isn’t money i it for treating dippers they don’t do it therefore no rules for use.

    Mayo Clinic has protocols and a way to treat dip and that is what I use.

    You have to throw out dip, cans, mud jugs, anything that is a reminder. Buy the NRT of choice. Use it! Carry a water bottle with you and drink it or spit it if you need the sensation.

    Substitute anything that is sugar free for the dip . No e cigs for nicotine they are terrible inregulated ways to addict.

    • Hi Sherri – thanks for stopping by! Agree 100% that there’s no “one size fits all” approach to quitting. Everyone quit is different. Also agree that you should get rid of ALL dip-related stuff and start fresh. Not a big fan of NRT (unless you’re considering these smokeless alternatives NRT) as I believe you’ve just changed delivery method but that’s another discussion.

      Keep up the great work! Always great to find a fellow fighter in this battle against Big Tobacco!

    • Sherri question is elicit full strength nicotin herbal chew safe as a replacement.

  42. I have been dipping for nearly 30 years. I quit once for 13 months then used a bad time in my life as an excuse to start up again. Non dippers don’t understand the addiction to the physical sensation of having “just a pinch between your cheek and gums”. I use original Cope. Can someone recommend one of these alternatives that I might find palatable? Congrats to all of you on your quitting progress. Good luck.

    • Have you tried the Bacc-Off products? They have a pretty good fine cut that would be close to the texture of original Cope

    • I have been using plain coffee grounds for the physical addiction. I quit chewing (cold turkey) about 3 weeks ago and had chewed Cope for 30 years. The straight coffee reminds me of a stale chew that was in for a long time but gives me caffeine to help with being tired and more importantly the physical addiction is covered by the coffee grounds. I believe that I was also addicted to the nicotine but the craving to have something in my lip was even more frustrating than the loss of nicotine so far. I have been able to fight of the cravings by taking a spoonful of coffee from the can and putting it in as if it were a dip the coffee grounds get stuck in my teeth like the Cope did. I also quit while still having two cans of Cope (one at the house and one in the car) I know where they are and plan to save them as a trophy for when I have completed the quitting process (Plus they will be stale by the time that I try to use them).

      • One more thing that I forgot to put in the last post was that for the first two weeks I also drank a lot of water and took cranberry pills to flush out my system. I had always heard that cranberry juice was used to clean out your system so I tried it. Not sure of it helped but I sure did make many trips to the bathroom.

  43. I am on day 50 without dip and wanted to leave a post to you all that it can be done. I just attended my uncles funeral yesterday. He died of cancer that originated from years of dipping. When I first saw his tumor in person a few months ago is when I decided to quit. Not for me but for my two children and my wife. If you truly want to quit deep down you can do it without any of these alternatives like I have done. I chew sunflower seeds every now and then and beef jerky when I can afford it but my advice is just flat quit the nicotine. You can’t keep holding on to it with gum and e cigs and you have to stop it cold turkey. Good luck to you all and God Bless.

  44. Well..Here goes another try to quit dip. been doing it heavy for three years now. was looking up alternatives so as i could still have something in my lip thats not as “bad” for me. One of the products was Jakes Mint Chew. Had to drive 20 miles to the nearest store that had it but its Not bad stuff! Made of organic mint leaves and organic glycerin, water, and organic flavors…Thats it! no nicotine and no tobacco. I got four tins (of different flavors) so hopefully it will last me at least four days without the real stuff and ill go from there.

  45. Good lord, day 3 of quitting and my head hurts so bad, but I can do this, I got an e- cig to take the edge off my nicotine craving, but it doesn’t have nearly the nicotine my Cope had in it, plus I don’t like the taste it leaves in my mouth, but it has helped me get through three days of no dip, no small feat for me, and I am glad I don’t like the taste, it is just a binky for getting off dip and not a shift in addictions. I dipped in the first place because I didn’t care for cigarettes but liked the nicotine buzz. I kind of feel like I have the flu, but no fever, just sore and headaches, I read that this is normal for long time dippers when they finally quit. I’m gonna do this, for my kids, my wife and me…oh and my teeth, gums and jaw too.

    • Your family needs and loves you. Put a picture of them in your pocket. Try getting a round can of sugarfree mints and use them like the dip. You can use a 21mg patch to relive some of the craving. You want to use it for a couple of weeks and then step down to 14mg then to 7mg and eventually none.

      The nicotine receptors in your brain are screaming and you need help.

      Ecigs are not FDA apporoved and just a way to keep you addicted. They also have no manufacturing standards and have some serious potential bad effects on your lungs.

      You can do this!

      • Hold in there and fight it out. 36 year addict to cope, cherry skoal, etc. and been without it since January ’14…..think I got it whipped
        Doc gave me a prescription to chantix (bad expensive unless insurance covers it) which helped take the edge off. I used chantix for 4-6 weeks then stopped cause I felt like I was getting addicted to chantix.
        Presently I also use jack links ground jerky that comes in a can like chew does, seems to work ok for me. For some reason cinnamon hard candy worked well for me. I also tried jolly ranchers, root beer candies, sunflower seeds and peanuts.
        Understand I had multiple dips in from breakfast til bedtime (poster child for the smokeless industry) and it wasn’t so much the buzz I was missing but the feeling I had a dip in all the time…so needed something to help with the sensation of missing the feeling in my lip.
        Best of luck.

    • Damien – your head is hurting… for a prolonged period of time… because you’re still feeding your addiction with your e-cig. It contains nicotine… that’s what you’e addicted to, and that’s what your withdrawing from. The sooner you remove that drug from your system the sooner you can begin your recovery.


      This morning is day 4 for me. I smoked from 14-25 yrs and dipped from 25-31 yrs old. I started dipping to quit smoking because my Dad passed of a heart attack at age 49. That was a bad 6 year idea. My father-in-law started lozenges to quit smoking, he just had 16k worth of dental work done from the damage they did. I don’t think there is really a way to quit aside from cold turkey. Push-ups, sun flower seeds, beef jerky in a can (surprised this is not listed), tooth picks, mints, sex, I’m using all these things to keep myself sane and it’s working pretty well I guess. I have not hit this so-called fog yet but day 2 I was sweating like crazy and literally trying to pull my hair out. That’s when I learned doing push-ups till you can’t feel your arms is a pretty good stress relief, plus you might have some guns Obama can’t take away by the time the cravings stop.

    • The e cig is a raw tobacco free alternative for smokers and it usually has nicotine. Pixotine Nicotine Toothpicks are raw tobacco free and do for me what an ecig would do for a smoker. It was my preferred alternative after 16 years of dipping tobacco a can a day. I have not dipped in almost 2 years and still use Pixotine Nicotine Toothpicks. I am hooked on the nicotine and I enjoy a slight burn/peppery sensation in my mouth. Pixotine is not a cessation aid as you still get nicotine, but I prefer them over traditional tobacco. My white striated lesions are gone and my dentist is happy with the results.

    • Damien, 3 weeks into quitting chewing after 36 years! I have many of the same side affects that you are feeling. It is scary feeling like your head is going to explode. I am replacing the dip with a few cigarettes just to get by until I can wean myself off those. You are doing it for all the right reasons, as for me, its my grandchildren, daughters and husband. Good luck and with a great support group, you will succeed!

  46. Right, there was fiberglass in a dip a while ago though not anymore. Saw dust at some points was used for the same reasons.

  47. @Dan Theres no fiber glass in dip…..

    • Actually, there are some brands of dip (Kodiak) that have been reported to have finely ground fiberglass in their product to introduce nicotine into the bloodstream that much quicker.

      • That’s completely false. Not only do they not do that but cutting the gums would actually slow down the rate of nicotine absorption if it had any effect. Most nicotine is absorbed through salivary glands.

  48. @Denise

    The issue for me is not one of getting a nicotine fix. It is the burn on my gums and the sense of fullness under my lip that I crave. My gums itch for it! The nicotine is secondary for me. When you first start dipping, the nicotine buzz is very intense. That is what gets you hooked… but if you dip consistently the buzz is at times barely noticeable. I haven’t tried these alternatives but I am excited to find that they exist and will start using them asap. I need to stop dipping! I can only guess about these products but I would imagine that the burn is either absent or simulated by a healthy chemical alternative to the fiber glass in dip that rips my gums apart. Oh, I just looked one up and it appears that they use cayenne pepper. Im sure this helps simulate the burn. Even if its not quite the same its something to put in my lip. I hope this helps you understand this difference between chewy gum and dip.


    Eh… That’s the whole idea though. Get a little bit of nicotine and try to wean yourself off. I’m not contending that this works… and I understand that some people may be addicted to the nicotine part of dip… but I would guess that there are a lot of people like me who are primarily addicted to having something tasty and burn…y under their lip.

    • @Dan, am just so glad that someone understands that it’s the “habit” that becomes hard to break with dipping, not so much the nicotine

    • To that point of a little bit of nicotine is moot. Like the comment before, and my previous one is the itchy lip. Not to mention being up all night because u usually dip right before bed. I can immediatly tell im wd ing from nicotine when my lips starts to speak to me and i keep moving it w my tongue and its crawling and begging. It. Really sucks

    • I was wondering is it the nicotine that burns your lip? because I bought fake chew without nicotine and it did not burn whatsoever. I’m using triumph fake chew with nicotine and it burns real good.

  49. The gum works for quitting chew. I’m a longterm chewer and had to stop before my gums were destroyed. I had a precancerous biopsy as we’ll. The problem is I’m hooked on the gum. If I can find an alternative, something to have in my mouth I’m game to try it.

  50. why couldn’t you use the nicotine chewing gum to take the edge off? On the package of nicotine gum it states not to use it for trying to quit chewing, why not? It doesn’t explain the reason.

    • Denise – the problem with nicotine gum (or patches, or lozenges, etc.) is that they contain nicotine. The reason they “take the edge off” is that they are delivering to your body the drug that you are trying to quit. It would be akin to giving an alcoholic who was detoxing from Jack Daniels a Budweiser. This blog post will give you some additional insight: As to your question of why the packaging states its not for use when quitting chewing, I’m guessing it’s because these products are geared toward cigarette smokers. Smokeless tobacco has a FAR higher concentration of nicotine than cigars / cigarettes.

    • Because it gives the sensation of smoking a cigarette. It’s very unpleasant to someone who dips instead if smokes plus your also trying to get rid of the addiction all together.

      • I actually tried using nicotine gum to quit snuff years ago. I actually tasted like cigarette ashes, but they didn’t have other flavors back then. The main reason that it will help is you can reduce the amount of nicotine that you normally get by chewing snuff. After a while i believe you can reduce the amount even further.

    • Denise, as chic I’ve been dipping for about 7 years. I so want to stop dipping but it’s become so hard. I see most people that succeed is men. I’ve tried but it effects my family. I’m not one to be around. Have you found a alternative dip that helps? I currently use Grizzly Mint.

      • Kimberly – if you’re a mint fan, I’d suggest either Smokey Mountain Mint or Hooch Mint. Both are excellent flavors.

        • Kimberly I used mint skoal for 10 years smokey Mountian mint tastes exactly the same and have been nicotine free for 2 years. I take a pinch when the weather is right or I’m in the mood. Only a can a week or so you can do it it!

      • I use to dip I look on eBay for shredded jerky for dipping and I like the taste of jerky so its great and it feels like I’m actually dipping and if your cheap or can not wait get a grinder and buy beef jerky bags I mean its my opinion so I don’t know it’s JP too you

    • The real problem with the gum and vaping is it doesnt take away the constant “crawling and itchy lip” sensation. I can intake as much nicotine as i can inhaling e cigs or the gum and the itchy lip goes away for about ten minutes. The physical part is much tougher than the mental part. It does pass, i know from quitting in the past, then starting back up years later. I would chew gum eat lollipops and seeds, anything to get rid of the itchy lip for a second. Its almost as if my lip is calling out to me, and its hard. I still havent been able to stop this time after years

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